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Are there any pictures of the curfew that we could use in the article? I found this on the Imperial War Museum's collection. Could we upload it as "fair use" similar to A and B? ~Asarlaí 23:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a great photo and IMO would substantially improve the article. However, I don't know the ins and outs of licensing. Hohenloh + 11:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edits by IP 94.195.162.92

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This IP has added an unbalanced tag to the top of the article, saying that "The article as a whole is unbalanced". Could he/she point-out exactly wher the imbalance lies and explain how he/she feels it could be addresst? Thanks. ~Asarlaí 17:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added the unbalanced tag as the article seems to lack any mention of events from the perspective of the British Army.
  • The soldiers behaved with a new harshness ... axeing down doors, ripping up floorboards, disembowelling chairs, sofas, beds, and smashing the garish plaster statues of the Madonna, the Infant of Prague and Saint Bernadette which adorned the tiny front parlours
  • Without the media to watch their activities, the soldiers were able to behave "with reckless abandon".
  • Hundreds of houses were broken into and some were ransacked in the search for arms.
  • The soldiers also looted several pubs and businesses.
The above seem to be their respective source's POV contributing to a viewpoint that is already perhaps being given undue weight.
Furthermore, emotive statements such as "Charles O'Neill, a 36-year-old Catholic civilian, died on 3 July after being deliberately run over by a British Alvis Saracen" need a neutral source or stated as opinion e.g. "x claims". 94.195.162.92 (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hav reworded three of the sentences you quoted above. Please tell me what you think. However, the first bulletpoint is an account given by two journalists; ar you suggesting that it be removed?
The claim that O'Neill was "deliberately" run-over comes from CAIN, which is a neutral source used for almost every Troubles-related article on Wikipedia. Nevertheless, I hav reworded that sentence too.
I'll hunt for quotes from the British Army and add them to the article. If you find any in the meantime please be bold and add them.
~Asarlaí 19:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I added some quotes expressing the views of the NI and UK governments. What do you think? ~Asarlaí 11:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work. It's certainly improved the article, could we possibly add more from the cabinet minutes about how they felt the event was portrayed by the media? 94.195.162.92 (talk) 18:10, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think this quote would be enough to cover it?
"Ministers regretted the tendency of certain important sections of the Press to play-up the alleged depredations of the troops and to ignore the main issue of a very substantial arms cache".
~Asarlaí 18:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. 94.195.162.92 (talk) 18:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article fails to address the question of whether the curfew was legal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.202.74 (talk) 11:18, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]