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The meaning of the names "Mongol" and "Tatar" in the medieval Eurasia:

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It must be said, that “the real history of Tatars, of the people in every respect historical, is not written yet” (D.M. Iskhakov, the doctor of historical sciences, 2000). However, recently launched a new book of the independent Tatar historian Galy Yenikeyev (Galy Rashid uly Yenikey), about the unwritten (hidden) real history of Tatars: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/175211 There is a lot of previously little-known historical facts, as well as 16 maps and illustrations in this book. It is worth saying here that in this book sets out a well-grounded concept that the name of the "Mongol" until the 17th-18th centuries meant belonging to a political community, and was not the ethnic name. While “the name "Tatars" was the name of the "native nation of Chingiz-Khan" (Russian academic-orientalist V.P.Vasiliev, 19th century). Timerching (talk) 16:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merger

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"It has been suggested that this article or section be merged with Timeline of the Tataro-Mongol Yoke in Russia". I disagree; Tatar invasions were larger in scope that just Russia - although certainly they were very notable influence on that nation.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've renamed the article to better reflect its scope and removed the merger tag. Mowsbury (talk) 13:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

grammar, sentence-structure, etc.

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I noticed many strangely-worded and unclear phrases, due to incorrect use of English. There are still more that need to be corrected though. I dont know this history well enough to know what some of them are trying to say.

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Rename

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There is so much WP:OVERLAP, WP:OR, WP:UNSOURCED, WP:SELFPUB, WP:USERGENERATED and WP:FAIL going on here. If this article is to have any distinct purpose at all, rather than a catch-all for any Mongol-Turkic-Islamic-Asian-etc. military conflict with something or someone which/who is "European", then it should restrict itself to listing the battles of the Mongol invasion of Europe. At Talk:List of battles of the Mongol invasion of Kievan Rus' I've already explained why I moved that article from List of conflicts in Eastern Europe during Turco-Mongol rule to List of battles of the Mongol invasion of Kievan Rus', moving all post-1241 battles/events to Timeline of the Golden Horde, and limiting the scope to Kievan Rus' instead of the vaguely defined area "Eastern Europe". It has become a list functioning as an appendix to Mongol invasion of Kievan Rus', which is very justifiable. I think the same should happen to this article, only that it should function more as a "master list", a list of lists, to avoid WP:OVERLAP and WP:REDUNDANTFORK, which these two lists essentially were of each other. Therefore, I'm gonna rename it Lists of battles of the Mongol invasion of Europe, to function as an appendix to Mongol invasion of Europe. Not "conflicts" (too vague), not "Turco-Mongol rule" (a lot better than "Tatar yoke", but still too vague), and we restrict ourselves to a specific series of events that are identified as a group in literature in order to satisfy WP:LISTCRIT. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:36, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]