Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/5th Bangladesh National Film Awards

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus, default to keep. Lack of English sources for topics arguably notable to Bangladesh is not a reason to delete, and we do have editors stating they wish to improve the topics. Any merge considerations can be discussed on the various talk pages. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 18:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

5th Bangladesh National Film Awards[edit]

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For exactly the same reasons I'm also nominating:

These articles' content is copy-pasted from 2nd Bangladesh National Film Awards, with the only individual content the lists of winners which are unreferenced. There is no indication the individual editions of the Bangladesh National Fim Awards are independently notable, and the lists of winners, if sourced, could be merged into a single list article. Huon (talk) 14:14, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all Most of the winners don't have their own articles, and the nominator is right that the only sourced material is copy-pasted. Someone may want to put the winners in a list in the main article, but nothing about these articles suggests notability. Fails WP:NEVENT. BenLinus 1214^talk 15:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:18, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge and redirect all. −Merge all redirect to National Film Awards (Bangladesh). – nafSadh did say 18:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any benefit to a merge-and-redirect. All referenced content is in the proposed target article already, so there's nothing to merge, and the titles don't make likely search terms, so there's nothing to redirect either. Huon (talk) 23:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ although if the content can be sourced, it would be merged to the main article. Delibzr (talk) 05:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Agree with Kmzayeem. Delibzr (talk) 13:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the individual editions do seem to be notable. For instance, I just looked for sources on the latest edition, Bangladesh National Film Awards 2012 (handed over in 2014) and found these [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], all of which are indepth coverage from reliable sources on the 2012 edition, and I'm yet to search for Bengali sources which would bring even more sources. With a bit of effort, I think sources could be found for the earlier editions as well. There has been a total of 38 editions of the event with more to come, merging all of them would create a long pile of list, too hard to navigate. --Zayeem ^(talk) 10:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
redirect/merge many of these might be potentially notable, but the mass creation and lack of sourcing mean they are currently all inappropriate. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:07, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep These Articles. I'm the writer of these articles and I've evidence that These articles are written from a reliable banglapedia article.

This articles are not written from an English website, rather from a bengali source. I found the winners list of awards from 1975-2011 in a banglapedia article (banglapedia is a section of wikipedia in where articles are written in Bengali). please check this article, you'll get to know that these infos and correct : http://bn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/জাতীয়_চলচ্চিত্র_পুরস্কার_(বাংলাদেশ)

I promise that I would add this sites reference to all these articles which I failed to provide earlier because of lack of time. Sifat Mustafa (talk) 12:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC) User[reply]

FYI Because of the results of a sock puppet investigation of the above editor, several of the titles up for discussion here will be deleted under the "creations of a sock puppet in violation of their ban" clause. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all that lack year dates; Redirect all that possess year dates to National Film Awards (Bangladesh). Pax 01:41, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - Most of the folks listed in these articles have essentially 0 english language coverage, meaning these things are tough to verify. The award ceremony itself seems to receive very little coverage. Splitting it into multiple years seems excessive. NickCT (talk) 20:12, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in some form. These are national film awards of a large country with a substantial English-speaking population. As Kmzayeem notes, sourcing is readily found for recent years. There's information about these awards at the websites of the Bangladesh Film Censor Board and the Ministry of Information. A basic GBooks search shows books do exist that cover the topic, even if we can't easily read them online. [10][11] Deletion under these circumstances raises serious concerns about systemic geographical bias. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete-I've added more also and btw the templates should be deleted also. Wgolf (talk) 06:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here: Template:Bangladesh National Film Award Best Actress, that should be deleted also. Wgolf (talk) 06:17, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another one Template:Bangladesh National Film Award Best Male Playback Singer also here is one of the ones I've put a XFD for: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bangladesh National Film Award for Best Director Wgolf (talk) 06:20, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Zayeem and Arxiloxos. The film awards are notable per the sources listed by the former and the latter points out our need to expand our coverage geographically. The year-by-year lists are typical WP:SPINOFF articles of National Film Awards (Bangladesh) which would be too long if these were all merged into it. This approach is typical of how we handle national film awards. See, e.g. for 2012: 84th Academy Awards and 65th British Academy Film Awards. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 19:16, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:18, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all to a list. Stifle (talk) 12:00, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Normally we do make separate articles for national awards like this. The general content for the individual awards can also be expanded--there are likely to be sources for the ceremonies, etc. Of course, lack of English language coverage is not a reason for deletion--if that is indeed the case--there may be a significant print literature on Bangladeshi film. The names of winners for the major awards should be red-linked, because receiving a national award is sufficient justification for an article, and this will encourage them to be written. DGG ( talk ) 19:01, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.