Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cheese on toast
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Welsh rabbit, which covers the "cheese on toast" variant already. Mangojuicetalk 03:59, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Content duplicated by article Welsh rarebit Cavie78 15:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Welsh rarebit. The two are _not_ the same, so the distinction should be made somewhere, but I agree that we don't need two separate articles. Tevildo 15:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect, explaining name confusion AdamBiswanger1 15:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This is Articles for deletion. Wikipedia:Duplicate articles is along the hall, three doors down. Uncle G 16:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Welsh rarebit. I'm not very convinced by the unmelted version needing its own description or explanation of terms - sounds pretty much like anything-on-toast. Sources would help . Bwithh 17:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per above, but ONLY merge the information if sources can be cited that it is a 'common British snack'. -- nae'blis (talk) 17:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "Griller Thriller on National Cheese on Toast Day". British Cheese Board. 2006-03-16. ? Uncle G 18:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately that reference doesn't help. I"m not disputing that melted/grilled cheese on toast is a specially known national snack. I am asking (and I think Nae'blis is too) for sources showing that unmelted cheese on toast is a specially known national snack. The "Griller Thriller" slogan of the British Cheese Board suggests that their cheese on toast is melted, as you don't need a grill just to make toast with non-melted cheese. (Yes, I feel daft after writing this whole comment, but I will defend it to the death) Bwithh 18:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC) 18:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It should help. It and the further reading section of the article contradict the article's assertion that cheese on toast and Welsh rarebit are two different things. What you should be looking for are not sources showing that unmelted cheese on toast is a specially known snack, but sources showing that cheese on toast is actually in any way distinct from Welsh rarebit — as has been claimed, but for which no sources have been cited, and which is contradicted by the sources that actually are cited. Uncle G 12:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately that reference doesn't help. I"m not disputing that melted/grilled cheese on toast is a specially known national snack. I am asking (and I think Nae'blis is too) for sources showing that unmelted cheese on toast is a specially known national snack. The "Griller Thriller" slogan of the British Cheese Board suggests that their cheese on toast is melted, as you don't need a grill just to make toast with non-melted cheese. (Yes, I feel daft after writing this whole comment, but I will defend it to the death) Bwithh 18:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC) 18:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "Griller Thriller on National Cheese on Toast Day". British Cheese Board. 2006-03-16. ? Uncle G 18:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- merge with the welsh rarebit page please Yuckfoo 22:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Welsh rabbit. Hardee67 04:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Either Delete or Keep. The distinction is that Welsh Rarebit is a cheese/spices paste(made out of shredded chedder cheese that's put in a blender with butter, milk, spices, and other ingredients) that is heated into a liquid cheese sauce with a texture+taste somewhere between American white gravy and American nacho cheese, while cheese on toast is simply a slice of cheese(any type) put on a slice of bread and toasted. I don't know whether the latter is notable enough for an encyclopedia article, but if it is it deserves its own page or a section under cheese or something. Lesqual 06:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Oxford English says Welsh Rabbit is "A dish consisting of cheese and a little butter melted and mixed together, to which are added ale, cayenne pepper, and salt, the whole being stirred until it is creamy, and then poured over buttered toast: also, simply, slices of toasted cheese laid on toast". Maybe we could merge bits of the Cheese on toast page into Welsh Rabbit rather than just delete it if that's the consensus...--Cavie78 14:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Currently we have solely two Wikipedia editors' say-sos, and no cited sources to say that cheese on toast is in any way distinct from Welsh rarebit, whereas we have three sources that say (or at least imply) that they are the same. Please cite sources. Uncle G 18:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.