Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chenab College Chiniot
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Chenab College Jhang. Sourcing is insufficient for a standalone article Star Mississippi 16:23, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Chenab College Chiniot[edit]
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Lacks WP:SIGCOV. BookishReader (talk) 18:18, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education and Pakistan. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Government colleges are usually notable and this institute does seems like a notable degree awarding school in the region. Muneebll (talk) 13:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, no. Government college or private college: they have to meet WP:GNG. BookishReader (talk) 00:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- KEEP There is already sufficient referencing there for a short and a stub college article...with Punjab Government website and a newspaper reference.Ngrewal1 (talk) 15:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Primary sources are not enough. BookishReader (talk) 00:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Question Please explain how you are calling a major Pakistani newspaper source, The Nation newspaper and Punjab Portal, Government of Punjab website "Primary" sources (existing references at the above article)? This college is located in the town of Chiniot? Does not make sense at all !!!...Ngrewal1 (talk) 01:42, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- dlthewave did a source analysis for you on another thread. I'm doing it for you here for this college:
- Sources analysis:
- Jhang Education Trust - this article is about Jhang Education Trust. There is one mention of this college in this article as it is operating under the JET. This is a primary source because JET is owned by the Government of Punjab and the article in question is on the govt website.
- 4 fall victim to reckless drivers - this is a news report from a reporter (who witnessed the event - secondary coverage will be based on this event) got my point? Here's the quote from the article for AfD participants (emphasis my own):
In the second accident near Chenab College on Jhang-Chiniot Road, a speeding truck (MNB-9995) hit a motorcycle (JGC-2883) and killed one M Kashif and Mother Shameem on the spot.
BookishReader (talk) 21:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:35, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Neither the nominator, nor anyone else, have provided assurances as to their WP:BEFORE process undertaken prior to this AfD, which must include a search for local and offline sources in compliance with the outcome of RfC on secondary school notability
- I'm willing to change my vote to delete if assurances can be provided that these searches were made Jack4576 (talk) 07:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- I did a search on gbooks, gnews, gscholar, jstor, and Google. Admittedly, I did not go further than 2 pages of search results, but I saw that the results quickly declined in relevance. I found couple of database entries and passing mentions, but there was no WP:SIGCOV. I could not find any sources that indicates that this subject passes WP:GNG. I don't have a Newspapers.com access, so I would be grateful if somebody did a search there. There is also the question of the amount of work that would be needed to restore this article if it was deleted. In its current form, this article is a microstub consisting of one paragraph. I don't think there is much harm if this article was deleted and it was found out later that it was actually notable(which I don't think it is). Carpimaps (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- I second what Carpimaps has said. BookishReader (talk) 11:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- I did a search on gbooks, gnews, gscholar, jstor, and Google. Admittedly, I did not go further than 2 pages of search results, but I saw that the results quickly declined in relevance. I found couple of database entries and passing mentions, but there was no WP:SIGCOV. I could not find any sources that indicates that this subject passes WP:GNG. I don't have a Newspapers.com access, so I would be grateful if somebody did a search there. There is also the question of the amount of work that would be needed to restore this article if it was deleted. In its current form, this article is a microstub consisting of one paragraph. I don't think there is much harm if this article was deleted and it was found out later that it was actually notable(which I don't think it is). Carpimaps (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Probably we should redirect it to its main campus Chenab College Jhang as WP:ATD. BookishReader (talk) 12:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: or merge. Per nominator. Only two sources, one of which is primary and the other is a news article. – Callmemirela 🍁 04:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The keep !votes are more numerous, but no strong evidence has been shown that GNG is met here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Modussiccandi (talk) 08:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.