Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chung Ngai Dance Troupe

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Two sentence orphaned article as it stands does not offer sourcing to verify notability. (As an aside, it has been tagged for reference since April of 2006.) Sources located here do not meet necessary standards to verify same. No prejudice against creation of a new article if sufficient sources can be located. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chung Ngai Dance Troupe

Non-notable Local troupe, no evidence of widespread or other signs of notability. Also cannot be verified, as no sources are provided. Oo7565 (talk) 07:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - [1] - No notable coverage - youtube, myspace, the troupes official website, trivial mentions elsewhere. Fails WP:NOTE. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 07:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. —Littleteddy (roar!) 11:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I think this article loosely satisfies WP:N (specifically WP:ORG I think) because it does indeed have some mentions in third-party places: [2]most important [3][4] Littleteddy (roar!) 11:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
None of those are reliable sources, however, especially number 2 - which is a youtube video. In order to satisfy WP:N, one must provide evidence of widespread and significant coverage, not fleeting mentions of the organization. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 15:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Number 2 is not a YouTube video. Littleteddy (roar!) 10:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the only coverage in reliable sources I could find were passing mentions that the Troupe performed at a certain event. Jfire (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I am not familiar with this group, but googling for "san francisco" "Chung Ngai" -site:wikipedia.org -site:googlepages.com -site:chungngai.com -site:youtube.com still brings up some results which seem not-so-trivial to me. It seems to have a certain notability, but someone with understanding of this kind of art should check whether those search results contain valuable sources. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding that a press release isn't sufficient to demonstrate notability. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 19:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not seeing any reliable indepedent coverage anywhere. If am missing an award, recognition, or distinction that would be enough to meet the criteria for WP:BIO for entertainers. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 20:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Notability does not reach an encyclopedic level. Stormbay (talk) 19:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Google news provides a few mentions, most directly what looks like an article about the troupe from the Times-Standard, Jan. 30 1974 (can't tell: subscription needed to see for sure); but things like histories of the Asian community in San Francisco would likely be a better place to look for references (Google books doesn't turn up anything in this respect, but does show it is at least mentioned in the author bio of a book about Kung Fu). --Paularblaster (talk) 18:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.