Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Augustine Washington
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The result was Nomination Withdrawn. --Ave Caesar (talk) 17:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
John Augustine Washington[edit]
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Delete Non independently notable per WP:BIO. Ave Caesar (talk) 13:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC) Nomination Withdrawn due to discovery of his involvement in the 5th Virginia Convention. --Ave Caesar (talk) 17:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Active during American Revolution. Brother of George Washington, father of Supreme Court Justice Bushrod Washington. Resident and owner of Mount Vernon, a National Historic Landmark. Sources are here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. These all come from a 20 minute online search. If I used a university's database I am sure I could give you a lot more. If this guy isn't notable, who is? KnightLago (talk) 16:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, since you ask -- His brother is notable. So is his son. This man however misses the mark. Your sources mention him, but hardly more. Being related to two notable men doesn't confer notability. Nor does being the recipient of a letter from a notable relative. His service in the Revolutionary War appears to have been on a county body: he spent the war years at home, as far as I can tell. I think he misses by a wide margin.
Delete. -- BPMullins | Talk 17:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, since you ask -- His brother is notable. So is his son. This man however misses the mark. Your sources mention him, but hardly more. Being related to two notable men doesn't confer notability. Nor does being the recipient of a letter from a notable relative. His service in the Revolutionary War appears to have been on a county body: he spent the war years at home, as far as I can tell. I think he misses by a wide margin.
- The sources above show that in addition to interactions with a notable brother and son, and ownership of a National Historic Landmark, he was a member of the 5th Virginia Convention, which declared independence from Britain and instructed its delegates to the Continental Congress to propose independence. KnightLago (talk) 18:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And the Virginia Convention might be considered the equivalent of a state legislature, and being a member of a state legislature automatically confers notability. --Eastmain (talk) 20:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The sources above show that in addition to interactions with a notable brother and son, and ownership of a National Historic Landmark, he was a member of the 5th Virginia Convention, which declared independence from Britain and instructed its delegates to the Continental Congress to propose independence. KnightLago (talk) 18:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I incorporated the sources and information into the article. KnightLago (talk) 21:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, membership in the 5th Virginia Convention is equivalent to state or even national legislative stature. --Dhartung | Talk 22:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - I'm still far from convinced, but I've heard enough to change my opinion above. -- BPMullins | Talk 17:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep significant historical figure. It was not just GW who was notable in his family; some may have acquired initial notice because of the relationship to him, but others would have been important in colonial history regardless. This is a fairly clear example. A delegate to the State constitutional convention should logically count as a member of a legislature, and that one criterion alone is enough to settle the question in this case. DGG (talk) 07:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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