Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Kappa Alpha Order chapters

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sandstein 18:31, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Kappa Alpha Order chapters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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This article amounts to being directory information. See WP:NOTDIRECTORY #7. Dolotta (talk) 05:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fraternities and sororities-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 06:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 06:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom along with the other chapter directories. wumbolo ^^^ 11:39, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Clearly WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I agree with @Wumbolo that many of the other chapter directories can be nominated as well. Ajf773 (talk) 21:39, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment -- I agree with @Wumbolo: and @Ajf773:. I mentioned this AFD on the WP:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities talk page since there are potentially 119 articles that could go up for various methods of deletion. See [[Category:Lists of chapters of United States student societies by society]]. -- Dolotta (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  @Dolotta: While it does, "consensus seems to be emerging" is not a neutral wording of a WikiProject notification. wumbolo ^^^ 16:29, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  I see what you mean. I'll reword it. -- Dolotta (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  Your reword is appreciated, Dolotta, but you cannot get a consensus to delete 119 pages at an AFD for one page. It will require either a batch nomination or a noticeboard discussion. Primefac (talk) 21:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep few if any are simply lists of schools. An entry consisting of the school, chapter name, chartering date (, dates of inactivity, dates of rechartering) and Fraternity District split into whether they are active or inactive doesn't seem to fall into the definition of #7 at all.Naraht (talk) 20:25, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Naraht, that's exactly what this particular page is (just a list of schools). The other 119 pages are irrelevant to this discussion. Primefac (talk) 21:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Primefac No, it isn't. It has chapter name and school.Naraht (talk) 21:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fair enough. I suppose my main point was more that your !vote sounded like a "keep" for every page even though this AFD only deals with one. I also interpreted your statement to mean "a list of schools that was linked to specific chapters", because just listing a bunch of schools would be pointless as there would be no way to know which chapters were where. Primefac (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • OK. I should have split my keep into one on this page and then a comment on Dolotta's line. Your response to him covered mine.Naraht (talk) 23:13, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• CommentDolotta,Wumbolo,Ajf773 My question to each of those who feel it should be deleted is whether there is additional information for the chapters that would cause you to re-evaluate. The chartering dates for each chapter are available, with the years being available from Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities, and dates available from both Kappa Alpha itself and at least some from secondary sources. (As the chartering date is not normally a fact in dispute, primary sources should be fine.) Rechartering dates as well. Kappa Alpha Order does not appear to have geographic regions. I appreciate that each of you may have different standards here.Naraht (talk) 11:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Fellow Wikipedians: I've started a section on the article's talk page where we can respond w/ any improvement thoughts. -- Dolotta (talk) 16:28, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.