Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penn Kemp

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The result was keep. ✗plicit 23:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a writer, not making any properly sourced claim to passage of WP:AUTHOR. The notability claims here are that she served as poet laureate of an individual city and unsourced claims that some of her work won unspecified awards -- but municipal poets laureate aren't "inherently" notable for that if they don't have other notability claims alongside it, and the "award-winning" criterion in AUTHOR looks for major national awards on the order of the Griffin Poetry Prize or the Governor General's Awards, and does not just hand an automatic inclusion freebie to every writer whose article has the word "award" in it somewhere.
And for the sourcing, this is referenced almost entirely to primary sources with the exception of a single (deadlinked) news article in a hyperlocal community weekly in her own hometown, which is not enough coverage to claim that she would pass WP:GNG.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 12:13, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 12:13, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Notable, coverage found in the Globe and Mail (paywalled)[1], book review here: Vancouver Sun [2] and coverage here (confirmation of her participation in an event), reliable but trivial coverage [3]. A discussion of her here: [4]. She also has discussions in Catalan scholarly journals [5] and others from Brazil. Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Even if the article itself needs work (which it does), that's no reason to delete. Coverage exists that meets both WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. A sampling of proof courtesy GoogleNews: London Free Press coverage of upcoming antohology/Globe and Mail coverage of upcoming anthology, Stratford Beacon Herald coverage of A Near Memoir, Londoner article about Local Heroes, Miramichi Reader Review of P.S., and Calgary Herald review of book edited by Kemp. There's definitely enough coverage in local London news to expand this article... a task which I will hopefully get around to in the coming days. I also some stuff on ProQuest behind paywall :( including but not limited to review of Fox Haunts. Samsmachado (talk) 00:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:54, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep coverage exists to show that the person is notable. Bruxton (talk) 16:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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