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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 13:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Elio (flim) → Elio (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Please delete this redirect. I don't want this anymore because there is a typo and error in disambiguating qualifier, and it has existed under this title for almost two years. 2607:FEA8:761F:4600:BDED:7C72:F1A7:CD7A (talk) 00:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Implausible misspelling Ca ^{talk to me!} 00:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ignoring the implication that you wanted this before, delete as implasuible tpyo cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 00:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy Delete G7 per nom. Fieari (talk) 05:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:COSTLY as implausible typo in qualifier but not G7 unless the IP is User:Axolotl is a Pokemon who created it in 2022. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as an implausible and rarely-viewed typo, but also trout the nominator for either a flimsy rationale or flimsily-disguised block evasion. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:57, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

actionable pun detected cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 18:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Kenny Veach → Horror in the High Desert#Relationship to the Kenny Veach case  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no evidence to connect the case regarding this individual to the events of this film. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 22:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The article formerly contained the section linked to but this was removed as WP:OR. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G7. Thryduulf (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Where did you come, from where did you go → Cotton-Eyed Joe  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

the comma is misplaced, and it doesn't seem like anything links to it besides the redirect with the properly placed comma cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Redirect provides no substantive improvement to WP. Searching "Where did you come..." automatically completes to 'Where did you come from, where did you go', which rediects appropriately and is gramatically incorrect. This mispalced comma does not seem like a common error which would warrant its own redirect. Bgv. (talk) 22:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I was the one that created this redirect long ago and probably mistyped or something and I didn't go after some admin to delete it, which is something I should have done back then. NullReason (talk) 01:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Delete G7 - Misplaced comma makes this an implausible redirect, but more to the point, the author is requesting it above, so that's a G7. Fieari (talk) 05:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 13:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Gegagedigedagedago I've been married a long time ago. Where did you come from where did you go, where did you come from Buckle eye Joe? → Cotton-Eyed Joe#Modern covers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

too long? maybe just "gedagedigedagedago" and "gegagedigedagedago" would be fine, but this seems a little overkill cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Redirecting from a misspelling or synonym or lyrics used colloquially as a title (e.g. "Proud to be an American" for "God Bless the USA") is one thing, but this one boarders on patent nonsense. WP:RDELETE #8 applies here as far as I'm concerned. Per nom, this is overkill. Bgv. (talk) 22:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete One long word is enough. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I'm usually fine with the first line of a song's lyrics or chorus pointing to the song, but this is both multiple lines, and includes an implausible rendition of a banjo riff as an onomatopoeia. Completely implausible. Fieari (talk) 01:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  eh, i'd say the riff and somehow getting the word "cotton" wrong are actually pretty plausible, as the details of the meme are mentioned in the target. my issue was more so it being 4 entire lines cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  got impatient and made the redirects, if someone wants to immediately nominate them for speedy deletion as vandalism, go ahead, but i'll (try to) stay out of that discussion for my own sanity cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per above; too many problems to be plausible. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above and delete gedagedigedagedago and gegagedigedagedago, too. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  eh, figured they wouldn't last cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. ✗plicit 00:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• International Networking Working Group → International Network Working Group  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This article, which I created, uses an incorrect title. I moved it to the correct title but the redirect is not a name ever used in sources for this topic, so it's not a plausible alternative name that could justify a redirect. No articles link here. Propose deleting it to avoid confusion or it becoming a Wikipedia reflection on the Internet Whizz40 (talk) 18:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 12:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The redirect might confuse readers into believing this name was ever real, when only mentions of the web are Wikipedia mirrors. If they accidentally put a gerund, Wikipedia's search function handles it well. Ca ^{talk to me!} 00:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. It is an incorrect title for the topic that is solely due to my own error. It is never used in sources and is not, therefore, a plausible redirect. However, it is showing up in Google searches:

https://www.google.com/search?q=international+network+working+group&oq=international+network+working+group&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg8MgYIAhBFGDwyBggDEEUYPNIBCDQ0MjhqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&safe=active&ssui=on

Thank you. Whizz40 (talk) 06:20, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pls note: this has been raised as an issue on the talk page by an expert reader/editor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Network_Working_Group#Correct_name. Whizz40 (talk) 06:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. The article was a this title for almost 4 years (February 2020-November 2023) before being moved. Given that the group dealt with networking it's also a very plausible error to make. Thryduulf (talk) 20:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I looked again and found a couple of examples where "International Networking Working Group" is used in sources. Although it is still a typo in both cases, I think it is therefore a plausible redirect and probably where I got it from in the first place:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220494724_INWG_and_the_Conception_of_the_Internet_An_Eyewitness_Account

https://spectrum.ieee.org/osi-the-internet-that-wasnt

Regards, Whizz40 (talk) 21:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Hyper Shadow → Shadow the Hedgehog  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

apparently a mistake on a guide that some people thought was grounds to adding headcanons here? currently, there are only four sonic characters who have a "hyper" form, and none of them are shadow cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Un assiolo (talk • contribs) 14:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Ultimate Life. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Ultimate life → Shadow the Hedgehog  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

the ultimate life (missing the word "form") is a movie, apparently. implausible misspelling otherwise cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to The Ultimate Life, per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 20:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 13:20, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Tail(character) → Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

malformed and misspelled (unless it refers to the pizza tower character) cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - implausible combination of two typos. Sergecross73 msg me 14:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• If kept it should be moved to Tail (character) without redirect per WP:RDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RDAB. No prejudice against the creation of a properly formatted alternative. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 10:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 13:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Eggman! → Doctor Eggman  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

exclamation mark! i have no idea why! cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...huh. the redirect is fully protected. i wonder why cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - unclear to me why anyone would add an exclamation mark to the end of the name in a search for the subject. Unlikely to serve a purpose. Sergecross73 msg me 14:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Per WP:PANDORA. If it gets recreated by trolls for some reason, it can be WP:SALTed. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – if anyone's curious, this page was actually created as a "primitive salting", since its first revision was just {{deletedpage}} (see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 October 14 § Template:Deletedpage). When "salting proper" was invented, these pages were presumably deleted en masse, but since Radiant! had already boldly converted this one to a redirect, it survived the mass extinction. That is, until today – when this living fossil goes out with a bang! jlwoodwa (talk) 05:39, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above, but explicitly not per WP:PANDORA (which is misleading nonsense that contradicts WP:OTHERSTUFF). I don't think it likely that this needs to be salted - it was recreated three times on the same day in 2006 by a single editor whose only other contributions are to their talk page on that same day. These days we'd have given that editor a short term (partial) block rather than protecting the page. Thryduulf (talk) 21:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. ^Complex/_Rational 13:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Teahouse (Wikipedia) → Wikipedia:Teahouse  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• The Wikipedia Teahouse → Wikipedia:Teahouse  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

are those cross-namespace redirects necessary? they seem to get no views, aside from the few times i considered nominating them before cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. They're not "necessary", a redirect seldom is. But they're harmless, and might occasionally be helpful. Maproom (talk) 20:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The redirects do include the title "Wikipedia" so already imply self referencing so I don't think that the normal arguments for deleting as self referencing apply. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - the teahouse is aimed at newer editors who might not know much about WP: namespace stuff yet, so searching for "the wikipedia teahouse" is a pretty believable attempt at finding it. "Weak" vote because it is a bit odd BugGhost🪲👻 12:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Cross-namespace redirects from the article to project namespace are good in a very limited range of circumstances, but the most common one of those is where the target page needs to be easily located by very new editors who can't be expected to have learned about namespaces yet. The Teahouse is an excellent example of such a target and these are plausible search terms for it. Thryduulf (talk) 21:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 12:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Hoitel Mario → Hotel Mario  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

that's not a word. doesn't seem like a plausible misspelling either, as the search function automatically corrects it cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - implausible typo. Sergecross73 msg me 14:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I don't find the typo implausible, as the "i" and "o" keys are right next to each other. Now, I'll grant that the pageviews are pretty low, but the pageviews for the destination article are likewise pretty low, so that checks out! Fieari (talk) 06:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not a plausible misspelling, which is distinct from typos. Unless the typo is super common, which I am not seeing in my searches, they are generally not kept. Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Ca. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 12:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Hostel Mario → Hotel Mario  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

there are differences between a hotel and a hostel that would only make the hotels hostels if peach was homeless and/or a university student. otherwise, implausible search or misspelling cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - implausible typo. Sergecross73 msg me 14:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Implausible. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Overdue cleanup, per WP:CSD#G3. ^Complex/_Rational 01:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Jonathan and John → Phineas and Ferb  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

it's statistically equally likely that i'm missing something and this name is actually mentioned somewhere in the target or a related article, that it's supposed to have a completely different target, or that i'm not missing anything and this is just vandalism or an accident. in case of doubt, leaning towards deleting as vague enough for referring to the protagonist of literally anything as "john" to be a meme, as google gave me nothing of note cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 12:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see no relevance to Phineas and Ferb. SatDis (talk) 03:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as old WP:Page-move vandalism from 2010. - Eureka Lott 20:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete per G3. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was talk page re-synced with the article. User:Ergzay, your incompetent page move is how the talk page somehow became separated. See User talk:Wbm1058#Oops! wbm1058 (talk) 15:19, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Talk:SpaceX Starshield → Talk:Starshield (program)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Talk page somehow has become separated from the main page with talk page and main page being at different URLs. Ergzay (talk) 06:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Restore normality - That is, move the estranged talk page back to where it belongs. Fieari (talk) 05:54, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus for Vital articles, delete the rest. ✗plicit 00:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Vital Articles → Wikipedia:Vital articles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Vital articles → Wikipedia:Vital articles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Vital Article → Wikipedia:Vital articles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Vital article → Wikipedia:Vital articles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Ancient holdovers from the early days of Wikipedia. Interstellarity (talk) 00:22, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete All - CNR. Fieari (talk) 05:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Vital articles, delete others, per WP:R#DELETE #6. Though CNRs have a tendency for deletion, this one is long-standing for over a decade, and has 90 page views per months, showing its benefit to readers who are confused about Wikipedia's vital article classification system. Rest of the redirects have minimal pageviews, and Wikipedia's search function works just fine. Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete not really a Wikipedia specific term and although Google returns WP in the 1st 2 results only 1 other result (Reddit) appears to be for Wikipedia. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep only Vital articles per Ca. Searching "'vital articles'" on Google only gives me Wikipedia. Searching "'vital articles' - wikipedia" gives me Wikimedia, other fandom wikis, and people who happened to use that phrase in that way. This has pretty much become a Wikipedia-specific term. MrMeAndMrMe_{Let's talk} 23:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of articles all languages should have → Wikipedia:Vital articles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per discussion here: Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_24#List_of_articles_every_Wikipedia_should_have Interstellarity (talk) 00:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - CNR. Fieari (talk) 05:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Unlikely CNR search term for readers. Ca ^{talk to me!} 11:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete all but 1 Google result appears to be for Wikipedia but its not a Wikipedia specific term. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the linked previous RFD and this not actually referencing Wikipedia. By a literal reading it should lead to an article about grammatical articles but there is no such thing as something every language should have (not all languages even have articles, let alone specific ones). Thryduulf (talk) 21:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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