User talk:Michael Ten

Thanks for stopping by and editing the intro to Internet Protocol Analysis. If you have any other recommendations, I'd appreciate hearing from you. The course goes live with approximately 100 real world students on January 14. -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 23:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

What learning project is Earning money associated with? That title doesn't appear to be either an academic topic or have a corresponding Wikipedia subject associated with it. We're trying better organize Wikiversity so that top-level pages are either a course or full lesson on a particular subject. If you believe an Earning money redirect is necessary, what project should it redirect to? -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 12:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Maybe it should be a redirect to business?

Wikiversity's mission is to create and host free learning materials and activities. Solicitation for external organizations and websites is not accepted. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 22:30, 24 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can you site a policy specific about this? Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 22:45, 2 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

See Wikipedia:Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 23:26, 2 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Is that referring to user pages or main namespace? Do Wikipedia policies apply to Wikiversity? Might wikiversity experience more growth if self promotion is allowed, at least on user pages? Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 23:45, 2 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, it comes from Wikiversity:External links. I clicked one too far before pasting the link. Regarding self promotion, see Wikiversity:Mission. The mission isn't growth or promotion elsewhere. The mission is free resources hosted here. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 00:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Please include an Edit summary description with your changes. Also note that Wikiversity naming convetions do not require Sentence case titles. In fact, most academics prefer Title Case. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 16:37, 18 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

The pages created at Open interviews/I want to see aging defeated. Interview me! and Talk:Open interviews/I want to see aging defeated. Interview me! were self-promotion and solicitation for your own efforts outside of Wikiversity. They were not consistent with the Wikiversity:Mission and have been deleted. Please focus your editing efforts on developing learning projects that support the Wikiversity mission. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Wow. You really want to stifle growth on this site. Good job. My open interview was better received on Reddit. Please userify the page for a week so I can transwiki it to a different wiki. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 18:06, 15 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry to see that your vision of growth at Wikiversity is to grow Reddit at our expense. There is no need to restore the requested content. The text has been forwarded to your email account. Best of luck to you. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 19:48, 15 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

How was that going to grow Reddit? Reddit has experienced enormous growth over the last few years. A large percentage of content on Reddit is directly and indirectly related to learning. This site can learn a great deal from Reddit. I was attempting to emulate an extremely popular feature of Reddit here (which can be used for learning, research, and teaching), so that this site could potentially grow for the same excellent reason Reddit has related to learning - interviews (Reddit calls them AMA's Ask me anything). I hope you can figure out a way to be more welcoming to potential participants here on this site. Good luck. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 20:12, 15 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

It's an interesting start you made at WikiJournal of Business and Economics. I've written some advice at: WikiJournal/Starting a journal. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 17:00, 1 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 02:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Exciting to see interest in a new journal! Will articles be peer-reviewed before publication? T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 03:20, 4 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

What do you think of the idea of forming it into a slightly broader journal of Social Science, to include e.g. Law, History and Sociology? Broader scope may make it easier to ensure sufficient content and interest to keep different WikiJournals maintainable. I suspect that WikiJournals will survive best if there are a small number (3-6) broad academic disciplines. I realise that it might make finding suitable external experts for peer review more difficult though. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 08:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello Michael,

My name is Philip and I am a founder of wikijournal.org. I am involved to the group of users who works on different types of wikijournals like Wikijournal of Science, Wikijournal of Medicine etc. We are discussing merging wikijournal under one big broject - wikijournal.org. We discuss all possibilities and opportunities of the project here: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Talk:WikiJournal/WikiJournal_User_Group#Developing_WikiJournal_project_at_wikijournal.org

There are also some discussions at wikijournal.org: https://en.wikijournal.org/wiki/Talk:WikiJournal

Feel free to join the group of users and register at wikijournal.org.

Kind wishes,

Philip

Fokebox (discuss • contribs) 14:02, 2 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Please seek community input before listing additional users as active or inactive. There haven't been any active school contributors for a long time, but listing people as inactive has a different connotation than not listing participants at all. The community should have input on this. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 23:13, 30 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

OK. I will not use these templates anymore until community input is gathered. Feel free to gather the community input. I might too at some point in the future, before utilizing those templates and listing users and inactive. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 00:28, 1 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

I am greatly pleased by your conduct of affairs here at wikiversity. I got into this to garner as much knowledge as possible to pass my courses in the university under computer science. Thank you. Jerusalem Sabbath (discuss • contribs) 06:11, 2 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi Michael Ten!

Your resource Basic income cryptocurrency appears to be well-developed and ready for learners! Would you like to have it announced on our Main Page News? --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 02:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hi Michael,

I noticed there's not been much movement on the Preliminary WikiJournal of Business and Economics that you initiated. Is that still in progress?

Also, please take a look at the Sister project proposal at meta:WikiJournal and comment/support/oppose.

T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 04:23, 19 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Everything on wiki's are in progress. Correct? Cheers and Limitless Peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 07:24, 20 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Haha, true! Though I more meant is it progressing (as opposed to stalled). We're writing up a few applications at the moment for progressing the the journal group to a thematic organisation with and a full sister project platform for hosting (link), so I'm looking to know whether it's useful to include it in the applications. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 09:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

On quasi pause, ready for reactivation potentially, might properly describe its status. Hmmm. Cheers and Limitless Peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 00:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi Michael Ten!

Your resource Banking the unbanked appears to be well-developed and ready for learners! Would you like to have it announced on our Main Page News? --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 02:37, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Seems good! Cielo Milagros. 🌞

Content in the Draft namespace has been deemed as "not yet ready for main space listing". Redirects to Draft namespace from main space are not accepted. In this case, it is also a violation of the RFD discussion on Main Page "lectures". Please avoid redirects to Draft space in the future. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:25, 26 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

I see that you created a section "Wikipeadia Readings" and moved that from "See also" to "Wikipedia Readings". Makes a lot of sense to me to do that in general. Would you recommend that for all learning resources in Wikiversity, even if there is just one resource?--Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 07:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

If there is just one link to Wikipedia? It seems maybe noting that it links to Wikipedia rather than Wikiversity might be ideal. Somehow, if it is not otherwise noted. Hmmmm. Cheers and serenity. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 03:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Draft resources are not categorized. Users restricted to Draft: space have tried to use this approach to bypass their restrictions.

Also, please note that adding {{Nocat}} makes it more difficult for others to add categories in the future. Nocat can't be removed using HotCat, and almost everyone who does significant category work at Wikiversity uses this tool. Please consider using Special:UncategorizedPages instead to identify pages needing categories, and add categories rather than adding Nocat.

Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

No problem. OK. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 23:23, 1 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I've noticed that you and I have created our own creativity courses, and would love to see if you could consider us merging the two courses? I think that we could make this work, Michael. Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 11:16, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Links the two courses you are referring to? Thanks and limitless peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 03:38, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Creativity Introduction Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 09:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

What is the page of the one I created? thanks for reminding me. Limitless peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 02:36, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

That would be Creativity. Limitless peace to you too! Contributor^118,784 Let's talk 08:38, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

See Nation Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 05:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

A discussion that might interest you has been started at Wikiversity:Requests_for_Deletion#Wikiversity:Deletion_Convention_2024. -- Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 18:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I pinged you from another page before realizing the question belonged on your talk page: I suggest two changes to draftify. Let me know if you want me to edit Template:Draftify to implement these changes. See User:Guy_vandegrift/sandbox.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 00:55, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Item A: We seem to have polling places all over Wikiversity:

1. Wikiversity_talk:Drafts#policy_and_page_change_suggestion
2. Wikiversity_talk:Deletions#Proposed_modifications
3. Wikiversity:Colloquium#Please_vote_on_whether_to_allow_pages_in_draftspace_to_remain_indefinitely

Would you like me to place notices on two of them to vote on the third? If, so I suppose the Colloquium is the best choice. Do you agree?

Item B: I have some ideas about changing your Draftify template. See details at User:Guy vandegrift/sandbox

@Jtneill and MathXplore: Yours truly --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 15:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I do not have a strong preference how it is geared. (One of) My goal(s) is to help ensure good faith Creative Commons contributions (that are not blatant spam or so forth) at least remain in draft namespace indefinitely. I have no strong preference where this is voted on or how this is accomplished. Several paths may lead to the top of Mt. Fuji/Rome. limitless peace Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 23:41, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I will go ahead and change the template: It's not a controversial edit. And I will post a note on the colloquium abo--ut the three places where the draftspace motion is being discussed. I will look for you on Mt. Fugi.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

A lot of deletion requests are stuck at a near consensus. My guess is that you would support moving all of the articles into Draft:Archive/Foobar. If you go to Draft:Archive you will see that I have a search feature that might make it a more desirable location than Draft:Foobar. If you OK this on your talk page, I can insert a permalink to this conversation. That would save you the trouble of going to each section and writing something. The pages will be easy to find there, and we can move them back to draftspace or mainspace at any time in the future.

Happy editing, --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 16:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I appreciate the fyi. My support for moving to draft name is just that - support for moving to draft namespace. i do not have time today to clarify my support (if you mean related to organizational structure) further - although i noted some views on that somewhere but i would have to find those. I am not sure when I will have more time to volunteer editing this wiki. maybe tomorrow. maybe in two weeks. although I will try to check notifications and such sooner if possible. limitless peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 00:06, 23 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

With that said, if pages in Draft namespace will be kept indefinitely, I do think that Draft:PageName is a better longer term organizational structure than Draft:Archive/PageName. I would support a separate Archive: namespace if there is a justification/reason like if there are things that should be archived (that were good faith Creative Commons content contributions that are education/teaching/research/learning related that could be useful or valuable but not belong in draft nor main namespace). I also support there being various organizational pages within the draft namespace so that draft content could be found in order to be developed further and spark new ideas for new learning/teaching/research/educational content. Although opinions and views on this may vary. I support diversity of thought. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 00:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I definitely agree there, Michael. I am not a fan of throwing away freely licensed good-faith contributions. Whoever is interested to learn about something should be able to read it. Elominius (discuss • contribs) 21:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Elominius: Please go to Wikiversity:What-goes-where_2024#The_question_of_permanent_residence_for_Draft:Foobar and express your opinion. I think a majority of Wikiversarians agree with you (and me and Michael). But somehow the community seems largely unaware of this issue.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 22:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I also see no reason for deleting draft-space articles that do no harm: Wikiversity can't delete itself into a better wiki. But a majority of active cleanup editors don't see it that way. I am looking for a compromise. I think "quality" control should happen only at the top of mainspace, with the editors of that top page choosing how to organize the subpages. I am neutral about top namespace stubs, but see no reason to delete them or disallow others to write them. But the sentiment among the active cleanup editors is trending the other way. My plan is to move pages that might have merit into Draft:Archive and ignore what the others do. I like the way you write.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 00:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)Reply