Wikiversity:Requests for Deletion/Archives/21

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On Wikiversity:Requests_for_Deletion/Archives/20#Pervasive copyright violations by User:Marshallsumter there have been a long discussion about invalid fair use files.

According to this there are 1520 non-free files by Marshallsumter.

I think many files like File:Supraglacial stream Rainbow Glacier.jpg does not qualify as fair use.

This file is in use only in User:Marshallsumter/Rocks/Glaciers/Glaciology. Other files are used in Draft-namespace.

I was thinking that since the user is blocked then the page will probably never be finished. If the pages that are not in main namespace are deleted or the files are removed from the page then the photo will (and perhaps many other) will be orphan.

Could that be a way to try to fix at least some of the bad files? --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 17:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think most of those files are on this list with 471 files User:MGA73/OrphanNon-free. So if the list is correct we could delete those files. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are many files and userspace pages by Marshallsumter and Kizer, who hasn't edited in 15 years. I'll make a calendar reminder to delete them in two weeks and I'll check this thread again to see if anyone responds. Silence is approval, etc. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:39, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would support the removal of most of the pages created and/or primarily edited by Marshallsumter, but, as a matter of procedure, can you prepare a list of the pages you intend to delete? Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 20:35, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think that is a good idea. I tried to copy {{list subpages|Marshallsumter|User}} to my sandbox and noticed that there are some strangely named talk pages. I think that some pages and their talk pages were separated by a mistake. For example:

• Radiation astronomy/Courses/Principles/Syllabus/Spring was moved to User:Marshallsumter/Radiation astronomy/Courses/Principles/Syllabus/Spring
• Talk:Radiation astronomy/Courses/Principles/Syllabus/Spring was moved to User talk:Marshallsumter/Radiation astronomy2/Courses/Principles/Syllabus/Spring

The difference is the 2 in "Radiation_astronomy2/".

If the pages are to be deleted it may not be a big deal but it would be easier to find out if the talk page were moved so it had the same name as the non-talk page.

Also I wonder if there are other pages that were incorrectly moved. Does anyone have a good way to find talk pages without a matching page? --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 13:20, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MS has 351 subpages and I'm assuming that all should be deleted, as he is blocked and will not work on them and no one else will as well:

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The latter seem like they can all be deleted. I'm open to anyone thinking these userspace drafts should stay. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kizer's "Web Page" project was moved to userspace as the result of a fairly recent deletion discussion, cf. Wikiversity:Requests for Deletion/Archives/18#Web Page and subpages. Same goes for much of Marshallsumter's userspace content; there's also some non-draft pages in his user space like User:Marshallsumter/Deletion concerns, as well as the recently moved User:Marshallsumter/Dedicated Programming Compiler and User:Marshallsumter/Resources favored by women, which should probably be kept. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 21:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked all Kizer's pages. None of them have been edited since they were moved. Except a category was removed because user pages are not supposed to be in the main categories. That tells me it is very unlikely someone would suddenly edit the pages. Besides if the programs are 15 years old it is very unlikely someone still uses those programs and/or the layout of the programs are still the same. So the pages are highly outdated. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 08:26, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I also checked how often User:Kizer/Web_Page was viewed with pageviews.wmcloud.org and it seems it was not viewed from 2015 to December 2022 and then it was viewed when the DR started. My quess it we will see the same if we check all the sub pages. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 09:59, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my history of interactions and also that I am the blocking custodian / bureaucrat on MS, I won't vote or participate in this discussion. But if the Community agrees to delete these files, I can have MaintenanceBot do the work. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:09, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a consensus to mass-delete Kizer's pages and not MS's. Am I correct? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think both sets could be deleted. I just did not check the pages of MS because I wanted to see if Kizer's pages could be deleted first. MS is blocked so there is almost no chance the pages will ever be completed. However, there are a few of MS' pages that I think someone would like to keep. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 10:02, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I sorted the files in lists. If someone would like to hold on to some of the files perhaps they could just move them down to the keep section? --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 11:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are no problematic files in the pages of MS that are now in the (perhaps) keep section. So if they are kept it will not reduce the number of non-free files getting orphan and easy to delete. So I see no problm keeping those pages and just deleting the rest. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 06:35, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother you User:Omphalographer but perhaps you could check the list and either move the pages you would like to keep or write a "Ok now"? In case any pages with non-free files are to be kept I think we should remove the non-free files as long as the page is not final. But I would rather not spend time on that if the page can be deleted instead. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 06:42, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sorry to bother you but the discussion above is halted.

Justin (koavf) and Omphalographer, as written above I updated the list and moved the few pages of MS that should (perhaps) be kept. So I think that all the remaing pages of both MS and Kizer can be deleted. Could you have a look and let us know if there are any pages left that you would like to keep or if you agree they can be deleted?

Dave Braunschweig, I know you do not want to participate in the discussion so I do not expect a "just delete" from you but IF there are any pages you would like to keep for some reason you now have a chance to say keep to those.

If this DR is closed it should make it easy to delete a lot of non-free files and that would make it easier to clean up invalid fair-use files. So I hope you can find a little time to give an answer.

Thanks a million! --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 16:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Braunschweig: According to another user in this discussion, "MS has 351 subpages and I'm assuming that all should be deleted, as he is blocked and will not work on them and no one else will as well" I'm not familiar with the case or with that particular user, but isn't it possible to block someone only from uploading files rather than completely? They seem to have made quite a few legitimate contributions so at face value it seems a shame that they're blocked and have no opportunity to finish what they've started. Wikiversity has relatively few active, regular editors. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 18:22, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's any technical means available to block a user from uploading files without blocking them from editing in general. In any case, as a Wikiversity editor since 2011 and a former custodian, Marshall had no real excuse for his failure to understand and comply with project copyright policies.

As far as the content of these resources is concerned, I'm not sure that any of the pages he created has any meaningful educational value to preserve. For some background on the situation, I'd recommend reading over w:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive720#User:Marshallsumter disrupting Wikipedia for "research" purposes. and w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomy/User:Marshallsumter Incident Article Fix-up Coordination Page - many of the pages Marshall created on Wikiversity were substantially similar to those which were removed from Wikipedia, and many of the same comments about the content apply here.

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't have a very deep look, it just seemed like they had done a lot of editing over several years. At any rate, there would be no technical obstacle to implementing such a feature, so it surprises me that the feature does not exist. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 20:32, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid use of non-free files is a violation of wmf:Resolution:Licensing_policy and the suggestion to delete the unfinished pages is a way to clean up many of the non-free files in an easy way. So I hope we can agree to delete the pages (and files) to finally have some real progress in the cleanup that started more than a year ago in Wikiversity:Requests_for_Deletion#Pervasive_copyright_violations_by_User:Marshallsumter.

Users that violate policy after a warning should not be unblocked unless they confirm they understand policy, will follow it and help clean up own mess. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 18:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean to hold up the RfD, so don't mind me. I only feel the indefinite block could be used a bit less often in general. Aside from very exceptional cases, there's probably little harm in issuing a block that expires in a couple years or thereabouts rather than blocking a user in perpetuity. (Or I suppose a block on uploading, if that's the issue.) Copyright violation is perhaps exceptional due to its legal implications, yet one would be hard pressed to argue that a user should receive an indefinite block instead of, say, a five year block for general "behavioral issues" or the quality of their contributions alone. An indefinite block merely on grounds that a user allegedly hasn't made useful or cooperative contributions seems to all but assure the recipient will never usefully contribute. One gets the sense that it's often issued more to tie up loose ends rather than with corrective intent. Again, this is a general observation and not (necessarily) a comment on this case in particular. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 08:03, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I would not mind if the block was changed to a time limited block. But that is another discussion :-) I hope this DR can now be closed so the pages and the oprhan files can be deleted. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 19:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One possible option to block a user from uploading files without blocking them from editing in general is to use the uploader user group (See b:Wikibooks:Uploaders for example). By only allowing uploads from uploaders, users can be blocked from uploading files without blocking them from editing. According to Special:ListGroupRights, Wikiversity does not have uploaders, so we need another community agreement to install such user group. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 08:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should the matching files be marked for deletion seperately like File:01 darkflight.jpg for example? I noticed that User:Omphalographer nominated a few disputed non-free files like File:RockClassif-A.gif that way. I can easily mark all the files on User:MGA73/OrphanNon-free if that is what it takes. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 09:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion is OK with me. Having said that, I don't yet see the need for deleting these pages. Compared with Wikipedia, Wikiversity is a small wiki. Does anybody know the monetary cost of keeping all the megabytes is storage? Are there other costs (such as cluttering category lists?). Also, can a bot do these deletions? It takes about dozen seconds for me to delete a page. Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 03:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The costs of the hosting is a fraction of a rounding error. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:09, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why are the Marshallsumter user subpages (not files) being deleted? Are they copyright violations? Are they causing any problems? The deletion of them does not save any storage; it merely hides them from view, isn't it? Sure, as long as he is blocked, he will be unable to edit them, but others can have a look at what he created and perhaps be inspired in some way? --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 19:38, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am a strong supporter of not deleting harmless pages in userspace. Wikiversity is different from other wikis. Our philosophy is learn by doing. Inevitably that means making mistakes. And they say learning is a lifelong process. We allow short stories on Wikiversity, and I am OK with putting them in userspace if they serve no educational value to others. But any draft a child makes is of value to that child. How long should that child's page be allowed in that userspace? As long as the child is still learning. We at Wikiversity are too busy to monitor when a person has stopped learning. All we need are bots to remove category statements and other links that place that story on lists that others might need to read. Having said that, we should place limits on how many pages a person can write. Instead of trying to establish a page count, I suggest we just use common sense. I think Marshallsumter has reached his limit. --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 20:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many of these pages are, at best, borderline copyright violations. Many of the resources Marshallsumter created were assembled by searching for scientific papers related to a topic, then assembling a sort of a textual collage of quotes from those papers; this sort of indiscriminate use of quotes to constitute the majority of a work, rather than to support it or as a subject for commentary, exceeds the limits of what is acceptable under fair use. An example of this use can be seen at User:Marshallsumter/Rocks/Micrometeorites, where almost the entire text of the page is made up of quotes from four papers. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 20:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see. But e.g. User:Marshallsumter/Rocks/Coals does not seem to suffer from this problem and does not seem to be a copyright violation? At least, it is sourced from fairly many sources and contains multiple sentences that are not direct quotes. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 20:42, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's not much better; much of the seemingly original content in that resource is actually closely paraphrased from sources. Compare the section User:Marshallsumter/Rocks/Coals#Abelsonite to the cited article doi:10.1016/0146-6380(89)90038-7, for instance:

Original: Abelsonite displays a secondary mode of occurrence, occurring in vugs, fractures, and along bedding lamina...

Paraphrase: Abelsonite is a secondary mineral that formed in fractures, vugs, and bedding planes of oil shale.

Original: So far as it is known to the authors, abelsonite is the only known crystalline geoporphyrin. Almost all other geoporphyrins exist as a series of methylene homologues, often spanning a large range of carbon numbers.

Paraphrase: In 1989, abelsonite was the only known geoporphyrin to have a crystalline structure. Most geoporphyrins occur as a series of homologues spanning a large range of carbon numbers.

While Wikiversity does not currently have guidelines on paraphrasing, Wikipedia's w:Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing describes some of the copyright issues inherent to the practice and is applicable here. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 21:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But is the paraphrasing really too close? Since, if the information is to be sourced from the source, there has to be some tight relationship. Thus, if e.g. "abelsonite was the only known geoporphyrin to have a crystalline structure", then one has to say it in one way or another, and one has to invoke "abelsonite", "geoporphyrin" and "crystalline". As per Wikisource: Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service, "[...] the fundamental axiom of copyright law that no one may copyright facts or ideas".

The linked Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing is an explanatory essay and I have no idea to what extent it has been vetted to be meaningful and accurate. Its statement "Editors should generally summarize source material in their own words, adding inline citations as required by the sourcing policy" makes no sense to me: editors should not necessarily summarize since summarization is a process of omitting detail and an article author does not necessarily want to omit detail found in the source. Having a more serious source than "Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing" would be worthwhile. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 08:17, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My problem with fussing over Marshallsumber's subpages is that it detracts from bigger issues. At first glance, the top page Minerals looks like a quality resource that the casual reader will be tempted to look into. I don't have time to carefully look at those subpages, but my guess is that whoever examines them will never visit Wikiversity again. In contrast, almost nobody will look at a subpage in MS's userspace.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 19:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that an argument to leave Marshallsumber's subpages well alone and focus on what is really important instead, viz the mainspace? --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 19:53, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for this deletion request is that many files were fair use and only used in userpages. If the pages were deleted the files would be orphan and then they would show up at Special:UnusedFiles and be easier to spot. While waiting for the DR to be closes I have made User:MGA73/OrphanNon-free and that could be used to find the files. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 20:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be an easier plan, requiring no deletion of user space subpages: delete from Wikiversity all image files uploaded by Marshallsumter. Rationale: Marshallsumter showed a systematic pattern of misinterpretation of fair use (I make no such claim, but this is what I gathered from discussions), and instead of carefully considering each his file on a case by case basis, it seems justifiable to proceed with a summary deletion. And this seems to be the intent anyway? --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 10:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From Wikiversity:Requests for Deletion/Archives/16#Main Page "Lectures", it seems that mainspace pages by Marshall Sumter were proposed for deletion in 2018 and the deletion was rejected. From what I understand, many of the Marshall Sumter user space subpages were originally in the mainspace and were subject to the linked deletion debate. The present proposal to delete the Marshall Sumter user space subpages seems to be a proposal to change the 2018 decision. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 07:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the ideal would be to check all 1500 files one by one to check if the file is free or non-free and if non-free to check if it meets the requirements for fair use. Deleting all the files only used outside mainspace is my idea of a shortcut to get rid of a third of the files.

About moving files from mainspace to userspace I think the idea in the first deletion request was that the pages were not completed so they were moved to userspace to see if Marshallsumter or someone else would finish the pages. If the pages are not edited for several years there is no reason to think that someone will suddenly finish them especially not when Marshallsumter is blocked. That combined with the wish to get rid of non-free files is the reason for the second deletion request. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 09:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About not completed, does it match policy, and if so, which one? In general, pages in user space are usually not completed in any sense, and users often stop editing and leave their pages "not completed". Using the reasoning above, it would need to be a practice in Wikiversity to regularly delete user space subpages with the "will not be completed" rationale. Is there precendent of such a practice? I for one find the user subpages by Marshall interesting in their design and method of execution and do not mind that they will not be "completed". --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 10:32, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Polansky. As mentoned the reason for the DR was a short cut to get rid of lots of bad fair use files. Personally I do not care much about what users have in their user space as long as it is not illegal or harmful. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 15:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) Since files are not being deleted as "only used outside of mainspace", the rationale for deletion that you have in mind no longer applies, right? Since, we have found a method of deleting the problematic files without deleting the user space. And since there is no other valid rationale for deleting these user pages, they should stay, right? --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 07:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean that the pages in "perhaps keep" are free from such issues? If not, then the list needs to be fixed. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 08:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MathXplore. Not sure if the comment is for me or not. But the "perhaps keep" does not include any fair use images. --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 15:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(off topic) Does pages like Portal:Complex Systems Digital Campus/E-Laboratory on complex computational ecosystems/Members of the ECCE e-lab qualify for use of fair use images? --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 15:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]