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The Interwiki Map exists to allow a more efficient syntax for linking between wikis, and thus promote the cooperation and proliferation of wikis and free content. This section is for proposing a new interwiki link prefix. Interwiki prefixes should be reserved for websites that would be useful on a significant number of pages ({{LinkSummary}} can help). Websites useful only to a few pages should be linked to with the usual external link syntax. Please don't propose additions of sites with too few pages or that contain copyright infringing content, such as YouTube. As a guide, sites considered for inclusion should probably provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects be free content (under a Commons-acceptable license) be a wiki have reasonable amounts of content not contain malware Add new entries at the bottom of the section. When requesting a new prefix, please explain why it would be useful keeping the above in mind. Admins, please allow consensus to form (or at least no objections to be raised over a period of a few days) before adding new entries, as once added they are hard to remove from the many copies around the world. Requests for removal should be submitted on the talk page in the removals section and will be decided on by a Meta admin.

OmegaWiki

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link: http://www.omegawiki.org/Expression:$1

I'm pretty surprised that I didn't see this here already: OmegaWiki is a good and extensive non-WMF wiki with incoming links. I think we should support it thought the map. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

There are about 600+ links, though some by same person in user space, and others in multi-language translations. Either way there looks to be a general acceptance by the community that linking to the site is reasonable, and if that is the case, then our making it easier, and more resilient to change also sounds reasonable. Anyone see downsides to the interwiki?  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Nope. I like the idea. In fact, there was a "Multilingual Wiktionary" project on Incubator that was trying to move in that direction, but in the end there was no need for it, because OmegaWiki already exists. StevenJ81 (talk) 03:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Actually it is intended to move it to our servers and integrate it into Wikidata/Wiktionary someday. --Vogone (talk) 03:27, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

That's stretching a point; right now it seems like an open proposal, nothing more. StevenJ81 (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

It only lacks implementation, there is very clear consensus to move forward and OmegaWiki itself already decided to make the way free for the move. It may be true that it still is going to be rejected despite the consensus, but the intent to move cannot be denied. --Vogone (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Final thoughts?  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Billinghurst: Seems uncontroversial to me. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:14, 15 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Can someone please add this? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:04, 18 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

 Support it is basically a superior version of the Wiktionary, and contains a lot more languages. --Donald Trung (Talk 🤳🏻) (My global lock 😒🌏🔒) (My global unlock 😄🌏🔓) 10:35, 29 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

• @Billinghurst: Can you please add or close and archive? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:21, 23 January 2018 (UTC)Reply
  • @Billinghurst:. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:04, 21 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

uMap

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link: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/$1

Bonjour! uMap is one of the largest multilangual online map service that use layers / opensource / OpenStreetMap. We use it a lot within Wiki pages, not only in English or French, but also in other languages. It would be awesome to have an Interwiki created for uMap. Especially right now, since we're organising the Canadian Contribution Month!! Thank you in advance. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk) 17:24, 6 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I support this. Amqui (talk) 02:46, 7 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Can you give some examples of the urls in use and how they are stable. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:24, 7 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

• Comment At the moment system tells me ... COIBot> 154 records; Top 10 wikis where umap.openstreetmap.fr has been added: w:fr (31), w:de (16), w:en (15), m (8), w:tr (8), w:es (6), www.mediawiki (6), w:ar (5), w:ca (4), de.wikivoyage (4).

The community is using uMap a lot. I'm the president Wikimedia Canada and we use uMap layers very often, since many years. We would like to have an interwiki for https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/$1 ... This is just common sense. Thank you to make this happen. Best regards. Benoit Rochon (talk) 03:19, 8 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Девочка Енота: The request was to have example urls and demonstration that they are stable. That is still a requirement for us to place an interwiki.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:07, 9 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello billinghurst & Девочка Енота, I use the uMap at least twice a year for Wikimedia contests :

• Wiki Loves Monuments Italia: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/it/map/tutti-i-vincitori-di-wiki-loves-monuments-2016-ita_116655#6/42.699/13.689
• 2016 worldwide edit-a-thon: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/mois-international-de-la-contribution-francophone-_66778#3/15.37/-8.61
• 2016 Montreal Commons contest: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/marche-photographique-de-villeray-2017_133907#14/45.5450/-73.6172
• 2017 same in English: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/wikipedia-contribution-training-wikimedia-canada_165833#4/53.62/-79.98
• 2017 same in German: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/de/map/wikipedia-contribution-training-wikimedia-canada_165833#4/53.67/-79.98
• 2017 same in Japanease: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/ja/map/wikipedia-contribution-training-wikimedia-canada_165833#4/53.67/-79.98
• Query search "Wiki" : http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/search/?q=wiki

I use uMap for the past 5 years and URLs https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/$1 are stable and multilingual. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk) 13:34, 24 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

regiowiki.at

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Link: http://regiowiki.at/wiki/$1 prefix:regio:

1. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site: it is a special wiki for topics, that dont merit a separate Wikipedia article in de.wikipedia.org but are appropriate for a wiki with more localized content and viewers. So serveral articles are used to be exported to regiowiki.at from de.wikipedia.org. Sometimes articles are re-imported to de.wikipedia.org, when topics have been gaining in importance.
   Many wiki-newbies start working in regiowiki.at and then change to de.wikipedia.org
   Regiowiki.at is suported by WMAT (Wikimedia Austria) as a partner project of WMAT
2. be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects: It is a private wiki, that requires user registration before any edit is permitted. Registration is done by sysops and requires application via email;
3. be free content (under a Commons-acceptable license): Source of files and pics is simply WikiCommons, see e.g. most used files on regiowiki.at;
4. be a wiki: yes;
5. have reasonable amounts of content: lots of content already with 25,743,616 hits (!); see main side (german), among others;
6. not contain malware: of course not.

Thanks a lot, --Agruwie (talk) 22:26, 29 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

• Hmm. Much of the linking at dewiki seems <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Weblinksuche/*.regiowiki.at> to be at user talk pages. Why? —MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:32, 2 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

  @Agruwie: would you please respond; otherwise the next step is most likely to be closed as not done.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:03, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

  Oh, I'm so sorry i didn't respond! I didn't realised there was a question :(

There are many links to regiowiki.at at user talk pages, because during relevance discussion or deletion discussion regiowiki.at often is suggested as an alternative wiki for articles focusing on regional issues, best --Agruwie (talk) 03:37, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org

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Link: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/$1 prefix:dashboard:

1. tool developped by WMF.
2. stable link : https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/$1
3. easy to use prefix : [[:dashboard:]] /or/ [[:wmfdashboard:]]
4. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects.
5. relevant for edit-a-thons, organizers, users, stats, etc.
6. allow to create "Enroll" buttons using an non external link.

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benoit Rochon (talk) 4 January 2018 (UTC)

transit.wiki

transitunlimited.org was the old domain name of the wiki before the move in 2016. All the links to transitunlimited.org are automatically redirected to transit.wiki.

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Link: https://www.transit.wiki/$1 prefix:Transit:

2. stable link : https://www.transit.wiki/$1

1. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site
   • Allows easy linking to detailed transit information. The wiki is designed specifically as a travel guide on public transportation. Some users on Wikipedia tried to include detailed transit information for specific locations but got rejected because such information takes too much space relative to other relevant contents and not meeting the purpose of Wikipedia. See [1] for example. Transit.wiki and Wikipedia have separate purposes for the same transit system or transit infrastructure: one focuses on being a user guide and directory, the other focuses on background, history, and controversies.
2. be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects
   • Transit.wiki has operated for a decade spam free. User accounts are manually approved.
3. be free content (under a Commons-acceptable license)
   • CC BY-SA 3.0
4. be a wiki
   • yes
5. have reasonable amounts of content
   • 37,043 content pages covering transit routes (down to individual route level), transit centers/stations, and community destinations.
6. not contain malware
   • no malware.

Acnetj (talk) 08:50, 22 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

I see about 70 links on wikis to transitunlimited.org; and no links to transit.wiki. How much do you believe it is going to be used?  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

There's no direct lines to transit.wiki because the old links to transitunlimited.org got redirected to transit.wiki automatically. There should be at least 70 links. Acnetj (talk) 02:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

WikiTrek.org

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Link: https://wikitrek.org/index.php/$1 prefix:wikitrek:

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WikiTrek is an open project aimed to convert it:HyperTrek from a custom-made dynamic site to a wiki based on MediaWiki.
HyperTrek is the most comprehensive guide to en:Star Trek in Italian, but it is no longer actively maintained. To update the site, improve collaboration and simplify contributions, all the data have been transferred from the old site to new wiki. This wiki already has several contributors and we think the user base will increase in due time.

Italian Wikipedia already tooks data from Hypertrek, but it does not make sense to duplicate that information: this is lenghty manual process. With this conversion, the content of the site was automatically converted to a MediaWiki site and, implementing this interwiki link, all the content con be linked directly from Wikipedia. So users an take advantage from a complete data set and easy linking with no manual work.

Tu summarize:

1. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site
   It is the most comprehensive guide to Star Trek in italian
2. be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects
   spam does not exist on the site and the community will take care this will be the case in future as well
3. be free content (under a Commons-acceptable license)
   texts are released under CC BY-SA 4.0 or GFDL
4. be a wiki
   it is a wiki based on standard MediaWiki installation
5. have reasonable amounts of content
   site currently has more than 14.000 pages
6. not contain malware
   it does not contain any malware

Lucamauri (talk) 08:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

 Support I support this project because is the natural evolution of HyperTrek. --Hypertrek (talk) 10:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

 Support I support this project. It is an up-to-date blending between a classical hypertext project started decades ago, and an interactive, editable by everyone portal, in the spirit of the wiki initiatives. Afullo (talk) 10:45, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

L'Enciclopèdia

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Link: https://www.lenciclopedia.org/$1 prefix:lenciclopedia:

L'Enciclopèdia (formerly known as Uiquipèdia) is a wiki encyclopedia project written in Valencian, but using orthography from the Real Acadèmia de Cultura Valenciana (El Puig Rules), which defends an ortographical and grammar standard completely different from standard Catalan (as regulated by the Acadèmia Valenciana de la Llengua and the Institut d'Estudis Catalans), used in the Catalan/Valencian Wikipedia (Viquipèdia). This website fulfills the six criteria for inclusion and I propose to add it to the interwiki map. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 22:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Debian Wiki

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Link: https://wiki.debian.org/$1

Prefix: debian: or debianwiki:.

Frequently linked to on more technical wikis like mediawiki.org and wikitech, and quite a few on English Wikipedia, which surprised me.

Full disclosure: I'm a Debian developer. Legoktm (talk) 07:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

• If it were to be added, I'd force the https linking in the interwiki as proposed, despite having links in http. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 00:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

MarioWiki

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Link: https://mariowiki.net/wiki/$1

Prefix: mariowikide or demariowiki

To summarize: 1. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site: MarioWiki.net is the German counterpart to MarioWiki.com, which already is included in the interwiki list and the largest independent German site about Mario-related topics.

2. be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects: Of course I won't encourage our contributors to spam links in Wikipedia, also most of the Mario-related articles in the German Wikipedia already have weblinks in the classic format to MarioWiki.net articles. On our wiki, we don't have any spam problems.

3.be free content (under a Commons-acceptable license): our articles are licensed with CC-by-NC-SA.

4. be a wiki: self-hosted MediaWiki-based wiki

5. have reasonable amounts of content: currently almost 6000 articles

6.not contain malware: no ads, no external scripts, up-to-date software. Should not be in risk of becoming a malware-spreading site.

Semako96 (talk) 22:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia beta deployment cluster

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link: https://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Expression:$1

• Prefix : Deployment
• Well I just found it weird, that our own beta cluster is not on interwiki map.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 15:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

There's nothing in that wiki interesting to link to IIRC. What do we need an IW prefix for? —MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

A possible usage could be to use it for easy navigation from here to that wiki cluster, though I do not believe I would use it much myself. --Vogone (talk) 20:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

What permanent links were you envisaging? From which wikis? Can you please provide some real use examples.  — billinghurst sDrewth 20:53, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

billinghurst, during the content translation testing on that beta cluster (few years back) I have to use url instead of interwiki link, though it's currently no longer needed (as content translation extension is already deployed), I would like to see if deployment got interwiki linked so in the future there will be no longer hassle of doing this, I saw the practicality in this. Also, if it possible to this link site matrix or the meta itself, as an addendum I am fine if this request get rejected, I just thought this gonna make things easier for beta tester to do things that got reported to phab and need interwiki linking to here. PS : also per external search here on meta and en.wp :

• Special:LinkSearch/*.deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org
• Special:LinkSearch/https://*.deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org
• en:Special:LinkSearch/https://*.deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org

Thank you.--AldNonymous^Bicara? 10:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wikimania

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• link: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1

• prefix: wikimania:

Just a request to add the "full version" of the name (wikimania:), to supplement the "short version" that already exists (wmania:). Thanks! Quiddity (talk) 20:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

This section is for proposing that a prefix be disabled; please add new entries at the bottom of the section. Remember to explain why it should be disabled, particularly in view of the difficulty involved in correcting any use of the prefix (to generate a list of pages to fix: toollabs:pirsquared/iw.php). Completed requests are marked with {{done}} or {{not done}} and moved to the archives.

Uncyclopedia

I don't understand why Uncyclopedia was added to this list. The text at the top says "Remember to specify why the prefix would be useful on a significant number of pages on Wikimedia Foundation projects", but I see no reason why anyone would need to link to a little-known humor wiki with no relevance to Wikimedia projects other than claiming to be a parody of Wikipedia. I notice this prefix was removed in 2009 after this discussion. It is also worth noting that there are two Uncyclopedias. The community forked in 2013, and a significant portion of it remained at uncyclopedia.wikia.com, which today is the more active site and ranks higher in search results. (See wikipedia:Uncyclopedia, which links to both sites, and the number of active users listed on their statistics pages. Also note that the Wikipedia article does not use the interwiki.) I know the Wikia-hosted version can still be linked to by wikia:uncyclopedia:pagename, but having a dedicated prefix for either site and not the other seems like playing favorites.

I might also suggest that uncyclopedia.co is not the kind of site Wikimedia projects would want to be associated with. It is highly male-dominated, as can be seen from their active admins page which lists several self-identified men but no self-identified women. One of those men wrote this misguided opinion piece about the #MeToo movement. They also have an associated IRC channel #uncyclopedia where some really vile things have been said including Holocaust denial. (Ctrl+F for "holocaust". The comment may have been a joke, but if so it's in bad taste. Bigotry is often framed as "jokes" to make it socially acceptable.) There's more I could say, but I don't think it would be appropriate here. I don't know if Wikimedia sites or the WMF care about the nature of the communities they give traffic to with interwiki links, but if they do, I hope they consider that this one conflicts with their principles. Ekips39 (talk) 21:59, 30 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

• Speedy Remove. It was removed per consensus, and I don't see in the archives any thread discussing and approving its readittion. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
• Uncyclopedia was added to match the addition to the MediaWiki default interwiki map. I don't think the previous removal discussion is that relevant, given the site forking from Wikia, etc. I don't really follow the line of argumentation about being "male-dominated" (not true, but have you looked at Wikimedia projects?) or IRC comments (have you ever been in #wikipedia-en?) and so on. It *is* a humor wiki. (disclaimer: I'm affiliated with Uncyclomedia Foundation). Legoktm (talk) 04:37, 12 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

  There's no reason for Uncyclopedia to be on the default interwiki map either. It has no relevance to any wiki other than those affiliated with it. Forking from Wikia does not make it not Uncyclopedia. As MarcoAurelio said, there was no thread approving its readdition; at least, I could not find one. I did find this rejected request.

  Of course I'm aware Wikimedia projects are male-dominated, but many members are aware and trying to work against it, and uncyclopedia.co is far more so as evidenced by the link I gave and by who actively edits there. Yes, I am a #wikipedia-en regular. I find it to be a very civilized place where comments like the ones I linked never occur ("the holocaust is a lie made up by the liberal jewish media cabal", "banging my mum is endless enjoyment", "If you were my fucktoy you wouldn't be semen covered, you'd be semen filled", etc.). Behavior on #wikipedia-en is well regulated, and the channel has a set of guidelines, unlike #uncyclopedia which has no rules at all. Being a humor wiki does not excuse or explain the kind of conduct I have pointed to. But in any case, as I said, this site is not a useful interwiki link for Wikimedia or almost anything else. Ekips39 (talk) 04:58, 15 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Let me get this straight... you want to remove a link to a group of about fifty wikis (as Uncyclopedia exists in multiple languages, across multiple communities) because someone said something you didn't like... not on the wiki, but on an IRC #channel? This looks to be a political ploy, not a legit attempt to apply established criteria. And yes, there was a discussion both when it was removed (as Wikia projects can already be accessed in a format like wikia:uncyclopedia:PageName) and when it was restored. Nothing has changed since then. K7L (talk) 03:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Legoktm: It's not a humor wiki, it's a rumors wiki, Please remove it from special:interwiki. --60.26.9.114 05:38, 28 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

It's a site focused on humor, not conspiracy theories or attacking people. Regardless, listing it in interwiki links isn't an endorsement of it's content. Vermont (talk) 10:26, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Discontinue Wikinvest

All external links via this interwiki are useless now.

• The path is ignored, they all are directed to: https://www.sigfig.com/site/#/wikinvest-migration
• There is no free information available any longer, at least not without registration.
• See as brief example e.g. w:en:Price-weighted index both reference and external link.
• The platform is highly commercial and trying to persuade visitors to invest their money via this company. This is not what we request a platform to provide helpful information to our readers. We should not direct readers to a particular finance management company. The easiest way to manage & improve your investments ÷ Free online personal finance investment software.
• It is not clear why they ever got an interwiki shortcut; the motivation for running Wikinvest has always been to catch people and make them invest money. See w:en:Wikinvest.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 19:00, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

There are a lot of links to remove https://tools.wmflabs.org/pirsquared/iw.php?wikis=&iw=Wikinvest&hideclosed=on Would you suggest that there is a link expansion, and then mark as deadlinks, and leave the wikis to manage? Just removing the links is the other option.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Apparently there is no content available, at least not for free, or put some hundred thousand bucks in as investment to become a silver card member.

Perhaps something is archived via the original expanded URL. No idea.

But yes, projects should get a notice and the old path as starting point for investigations, and they may proceed on their own decisions. Other sites or even wiki pages might be a replacement in some cases.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 21:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@PerfektesChaos: What may be worthwhile is having a target page here at metawiki for all discontinued interwikis where the links have not been removed, and we are concerned about retaining the dead links. Suggest one page, with an anchor per site, and we change the interwiki to point to that static interwiki#anchor. Of course, if someone wishes to build a bot, or manually remove them, then fantastic. We can add some bot requests to wikis if we find value in that.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, good idea.

• I suggest a subpage: Interwiki map/Discontinued
  • Brief introduction in English, then sections per keyword.
  • Each section would contain three items:
    1. Recent URL pattern
       • By $1 the former URL can be reconstructed.
    2. Date of discarding (fall 2018, here)
    3. Link to the archived proposal debate (this section here, but in archive; first archive, then change config)
• URL change would mean:
  • No $1 any longer.
  • Append #wikinvest
  • Subpage URL.
• It is up to authors and communities how to deal with individual cases: Remove entirely, replace by other source, search web archives, mark as dead.
• One problem left open: They still appear on Special:Interwiki and might mislead some people. An additional database field hide would be nice; use by parser for link production, but treat as non-existent in all other cases. Flag might even generate the fallback URL directly

Best, --PerfektesChaos (talk) 13:24, 4 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

(+) If a discontinued flag is officially introduced, flagged keywords may be listed on Special:Interwiki with their last known URL pattern in a particular section, but usage will link to $wgInterwikiDiscontinuedURL pattern, if defined.

wgInterwikiDiscontinuedURL := https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map/Discontinued#$0

The extension of interwiki extension started less than ten years ago, now by regular link rot more and more keywords will pass away in near future.

Yours, --PerfektesChaos (talk) 13:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Botwiki

This website is down, and according to phab:T115790, has been repeatedly over the last several years (depending on how you interpret the last few comments in that bug report, it may have been down continuously for over two years by this point). It is only used a few hundred times, and only around 5 of those are articles, plus a couple dozen or so translation subpages here on MetaWiki (though I counted just by scanning the list, so I may have missed some). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{☎ Dinoguy1000} 17:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

• @Snowolf: as wiki owner. Quiddity (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

I'd be curious as to what happened to the content which used to be on botwiki: as that project's been offline for a couple of years now, breaking the interwiki link. Did the info get moved to mw: or is it simply lost? K7L (talk) 03:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

• I note there's been no answer from @Snowolf: yet (though by all accounts she's busy IRL, so someone should probably make a more concerted effort to get a hold of her?), and the site's still down. 「ディノ奴千？！」^{☎ Dinoguy1000} 21:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

  I emailed him a couple of months ago regarding this but I've not no reply from him though. If the wiki has been down for some time I'd say we remove the link. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

• I apologize for the lengthy delay in replying here. Botwiki has indeed been out of commission for several years. I shut down that hosting account a long time ago now, and never brought Botwiki back up. The entire database for it is overrun with the unwiedly amount of spam we had been experiencing, and I intended on cleaning stuff up before bringing it back. For a project with only a few hundred pages and only a handful of active or semi-active it was unmanageable to have many hundreds of new spam accounts per day. So between that and the fact that it was running on an ancient MediaWiki version, it always ended up pushed towards the bottom of the todo list -- I'm sorry. I am currently in a very busy period IRL, but I can explore bringing it up in May or June if there is need for me to do so. Alternatively, I could look at producing a dump of some kind. I'm open to any avenue that would be preferred (and I'm really bad at answering, I know -- I'm sorry MarcoAurelio). Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 18:44, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Keeping in mind I have no personal use for it myself, nor any history with it, I would say at this point that a dump would be fine given the site's been offline for several years and you don't have the free time to bring it back up and maintain it (I've poked around a bit at your user pages here and on Wikipedia, and it sounds like you've been short on personal time for years now, so I'm guessing this is a situation that also isn't likely to change for you any time soon). A dump would also allow someone else to run the site, if there was a desire for that at this point (if nothing else, if the contents of the wiki are of any importance to the WMF, they could toss it up as a read-only wiki similar to Nostalgia). 「ディノ奴千？！」^{☎ Dinoguy1000} 18:54, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

    Read-only on 1.7.x should be very easy to do. Actually I guess could just disallow new account creations and that would do the trick -- I doubt the spambots would still keep track of their old passwords. I'll look into this maybe sometime in the next week and report back. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 19:04, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

This section is for requesting update for an existing interwiki. This could be needed if your site's URL has changed. Please add new entries at the bottom of the section.

Doom Wiki

The original Doom Wiki is now at http://doomwiki.org/$1. Please replace the Wikia wiki interlink with the new url. Arianator with love (talk) 03:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

DMOZ and DMOZS

The DMOZ community is now live at curlie.org so please replace instances of "dmoztools.net" (a static mirror) with "curlie.org" (a live fork that continues the project). —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:35, 3 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

For the dmoz prefix, the target URL should be changed from http://dmoztools.net/$1 to https://curlie.org/$1 instead in order to make this change. (This is assuming that Curlie is a legitimate fork of DMOZ and that its replication of Web pages from DMOZ and/or dmoztools.net is in compliance with any licensing requirements.) --Elegie (talk) 06:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

ForthFreak target URLs redirect to GitHub wiki

As of this writing, the ForthFreak prefix has the target URL http://wiki.forthfreak.net/index.cgi?$1. From what it appears, URLs that start with http://wiki.forthfreak.net/index.cgi? generate a 301 Moved Permanently redirect to https://github.com/ForthHub/ForthFreak/wiki/Forthfreak-wiki. For example, there are the URLs http://wiki.forthfreak.net/index.cgi?colorForth and http://wiki.forthfreak.net/index.cgi?MiniSpreadsheet. It might be useful to use the GitHub page as the target URL for the ForthFreak prefix, in order to provide increased privacy and security for users by using an HTTPS URL, and for eliminating the redirect. Another possibility might be to use a target URL such as https://github.com/ForthHub/ForthFreak/wiki/$1, to increase the chance that the URL for an existing wiki entry will be redirected to the corresponding wiki entry (assuming one exists) at the GitHub wiki. For example, there is a wiki entry on the GitHub page at https://github.com/ForthHub/ForthFreak/wiki/ForthSystems. --Elegie (talk) 05:57, 2 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Elegie:Looking at https://tools.wmflabs.org/pirsquared/iw.php?wikis=&iw=ForthFreak&hideclosed=on has me thinking that we would be better to just remove the interwiki link, it isn't being used.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

infosphere

Can we please update infosphere to use https: instead of http:?

Thank you, —LLarson (said & done) 12:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

When I follow an existing http: link to the site it does not redirect me to an https: link. When I morph the http to https I get a browser warning that it is an insecure link. I would suggest that it is not fully compliant.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:57, 11 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Billinghurst: I tried multiple browsers on macOS, Windows, and iOS but wasn’t able to recreate your browser’s warning. My web console did list the website’s Creative Commons badge as being requested over HTTP,¹ but if it is called, it is served over HTTPS.² If that is what is causing your warning, I see user risk outweighed by benefits here. —LLarson (said & done) 15:59, 11 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

IRCS vs. IRC

Why is there no ircs in Special:Interwiki? Shouldn't ircs be preferred over irc, 'cause its secure? All Template:Channel transclusions are linking to insecure connections. Two alternative proposals:

• Could the ircs protocol be added to the map creating 4 new prefixes based on the exiting prefixes irc, freenode, ircrc, rcirc?
• Alternatively, could the URLs of these prefixes just be changed to the ircs protocol (all listed servers do support IRCS, also all up-to date irc clients). This would eliminate all insecure irc links using interwiki, including thousands of Template:Channel transclusions.

Thanks! --Ptolusque (talk) 09:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Ptolusque: there is IRC, have you misspoken, and need to amend? If you are asking why freenode is not available in secure IRC, probably because no one has requested it. Most direct requests that I have seen have been through their https interface.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, misspelled. Corrected above. I'm asking why all irc servers provided in Special:Interwiki are not available in secure IRCS. Herby I request IRCS to be added or as replacement for irc. --Ptolusque (talk) 21:54, 22 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

• Comment I asked Ptolusque to come here and raise this issue from Phabricator as I am unsure whether we should amend the existing links or add new ones. I do support using HTTPS of course. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:33, 22 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Wikia

Maybe Wikia should change from http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1 to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1 but more testing is strongly recommended. I have only tested one page at two Wikia wikis. Both are broken for me now and the change would fix one but not the other. It came up at w:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Template:TardisIndexFile where my tests are shown. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

@PrimeHunter: thanks for the note, can you provide any documentation from wikia about what changes they are making to their naming convention? — xaosflux ^Talk 23:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I don't edit at Wikia and haven't seen any documentation. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:07, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I found http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Links#Interwiki_links which says: To link to a page on a different community, enter "w:c:" followed by the domain of that wiki, followed by the page's name. This indicates http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1. Trying this, both http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:tardis:Davros and http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:harrypotter:Hermione_Granger work for me via redirects. Trying http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1 without w:c:, http://www.wikia.com/wiki/tardis:Davros works for me while http://www.wikia.com/wiki/harrypotter:Hermione_Granger fails. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

@PrimeHunter: thanks for the note, to be clear this will be a change of:

• FROM: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1
• TO: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1

— xaosflux ^Talk 00:55, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that is currently my best guess. I haven't tried other Wikia links or different devices. At w:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 169#Links to Harry Potter wiki, Wikia behaved differently with different user agents. There may be four affected interwiki map entries. They currently say:

• Wikia http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1
• WikiaSite http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1
• Wikicities http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1
• Wikicity http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1

I haven't examined how WikiaSite:, Wikicities: and Wikicity: are used and whether they would all be better as http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

• Done Wikia above is done, someone will need to test the others and let us know. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I have now tested the use of many Wikia wikis in the English Wikipedia. The already made Wikia change to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1 will fix all tested links made with Wikia:. They are all broken with the old http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1. WikiaSite and Wikicity need the same change to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1. All tested links are broken and will be fixed by this change. Wikicities needs a change from http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1 to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:$1. All tested links are broken and will be fixed by this. Note that Wikicities does not currently include c: and should not start doing it. It should only add w:. This is because all tested existing uses are adapted to the current value without c: so they add c: in the wikilink like wikicities:c:Smallville:Spirit. The suggested change will produce the working http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:Smallville:Spirit instead of the broken http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:Smallville:Spirit. In summary, these should be the new values:

• Done Wikia http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1 (already done)
• Done WikiaSite http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1
• Done Wikicities http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:$1
• Wikicity http://www.wikia.com/wiki/w:c:$1

All tests were with Firefox on Windows 10. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Done all updates made. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:38, 21 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

phab:T207596 opened to sync. — xaosflux ^Talk 14:41, 21 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Bibliowiki

This site moved to https://wikilivres.org in last month. The site has not maintained complete link functionality from the previous https://biblio.wiki address. The root url will redirect, and occasionally other links will as well but it mostly just timeouts. This is breaking several external link templates that use this interwiki link. I don't see any change to the site content, the name the only change. Frayae (talk) 19:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Xaosflux: The site has quite clearly become wikilivres again as was its name from 2006-2017. Could you update this? Frayae (talk) 20:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Note, this is both the wikilivres and the bibliowiki prefixes. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Done; Special:Diff/18733804 —MarcoAurelio (talk) 19:26, 22 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

ISSN redirects to HTTPS

ISSN: https://www.worldcat.org/issn/$1 issn:0021-6925

Note: Some ISSN URLs, such as http://www.worldcat.org/issn/0021-6925, generate a 301 redirect to an HTTPS URL that generates a 303 redirect to another HTTPS URL. At the same time, there are other ISSN URLs, such as http://www.worldcat.org/issn/1810-9047, that only generate a 301 redirect to an HTTPS URL. The change specified above should cover both situations. --Elegie (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

HTTPS for freedomdefined

Please update freedomdefined: to https://freedomdefined.org/$1 to use encrypted connection. It has a three-month Let’s Encrypt certificate valid from last Sunday, so it’s a fast catch! :) Hopefully they configured the update script correctly and it will still work in May. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:54, 31 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

This section is for comments related to problems or corrections with the interwiki map (such as incorrect syntax or entries not functioning). This is not the section to request that a prefix be disabled (see Proposed removals above).

When to accept or reject a request

I would like to suggest to better explain to the users how the accept or reject decisions are made and in what time frame. As you can see from the list above, there are several requests lying here since months (in some cases for more than an year) and it is not clear (at least to me) if and when a request will be accepted or rejected.
At the top of the page it is written Admins, please allow consensus to form (or at least no objections to be raised over a period of a few days), but this is clearly not the case as months are passing, not days.
So I would say that either the approval process is not working as expected, or it is not explained in a clear way to the reader. LucaMauri (talk) 14:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

I would say that the text reflected the early days, not the current days where the requirements of the wikis are more specific, and where we have less requirement for change. I don't think that the process is wrong, it is simply that those cases you highlight don't demonstrate a consensus to add, and it is be better instruction to proponents that needs revision. Requests here need the input of the wikis where the links will be used. I would suggest that these proponents need to place their request here, then announce their requests at those wikis where they expect the uses to occur, so that the broader community can reach that consensus here.

Clear cases of demonstrated use, especially internal use, have been approved. Low use, uncertain requests have sat here awaiting a consensus that the value for addition exists.

In my opinion, administrators are here to undertake the addition/change/removal after a consensus has been reached, not to generate the discussion to form a consensus. We could close requests as not done, if they haven't got that clear consensus, or we can leave them open, as has been the practice. [The community decides where we are going, administrators are the conduit to implementation.]  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I see your point and understand your reasons. But then again, information to the users needs to be updated.
First of all: who is in charge of reviewing documentation? Is this something we users should take care of, or an Administrator is better suited for?
Secondly, how we define consensus? Do we need 10 {{support}}? Or 20? Or 1.000? And how to weight them against any number of {{oppose}}?
I think we need at least a general guideline to know how to approach a proposal and gather supporters.--LucaMauri (talk) 11:07, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

rendering/distinction between internal and external links

Is there a way to introduce distinct rendering for the entries here? Before the interwiki map was opened to allow prefixes for external sites, readers could visually clearly distinguish between an internal links (WMF projects) and external links, but now that is not possible anymore. This imho rather confusing and also counterintuitive to the rules in some/many wikipedias, which allow external links only in certain section and not the article's main text. Not to mention that some if the entries here somewhat violate the usual criteria for external links of some wikipedias as well.--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:33, 15 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

The rendering of interwiki links is controlled by the CSS class .extiw: in our MediaWiki installation we decided to show a small sunflower icon (WikiMedia logo) next to any interwiki link and we managed to do this simply adding a background-image property to the class in the CSS. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, there is not an easy way to differentiate between different sites. The general idea would be to add a second class – beside .extiw – to the links identifying the prefix of the website where the link points to: then it could be possible to customize every links in a similar way as the <li> elements in the sidebar. This should be suggested as a change to MediWiki codebase, but I haven't found the time to do so, yet. --LucaMauri (talk) 12:24, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Interwiki link search tool

Hey, I just randomly decided to check this talk page and realized that the tool is down (and probably has been down for quite some time). I haven't logged into tool labs at all in several years so it's kind of a miracle that it was even up in 2018. Anyone know how I can get it back up? PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:59, 30 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

• Interwiki prefixes are case-insensitive
• Following some updates to Interwiki map, please lodge an update site request in Phabricator (replace the description field with something along: "Please update the interwiki cache following on-wiki updates on Meta-Wiki. Thank you.").

Update logs

• Logging of interwiki map update (interwiki search, Feb 2016 onwards)
• Logging of interwiki map update (interwiki.php search, Feb 2016 onwards)

Due to limited search functionality, you will need to check both log searches.

Current map in the configuration

• You can check here the current map as existing on the Wikimedia configuration files.