Wikidata:Property proposal/TASVideos game ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

TASVideos (Q70432304) is a pretty major site for sharing tool-assisted speedrun (Q2661314) (aka TAS) content: movies, resources, discussions, etc. Seems pretty sensible to link their game pages, since speedrun.com (Q63935011) (focused on speedruns without tools) has their equivalent property established.

Note: there are equivalent pages with more human-friendly URLs, e.g. for Super Mario Bros. (Q11168), https://tasvideos.org/Games/Smb == https://tasvideos.org/1G, but we can always find the numeric part of the ID by finding "Id" in the Details section of the page.

-- Btcprox (talk) 05:33, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Video games

•  Support. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Repinging:
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  Notified participants of WikiProject Video games. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:23, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support Matthias M. (talk) 10:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Conditional support The "G" suffix is short for "game" and is not part of the game ID. The number alone uniquely identifies a game on TASVideos. Dexxor (talk) 10:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

   Conditional support Same as above. OmegaFallon (talk) 11:35, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Dexxor, OmegaFallon: seems fair, since the page itself also just mentions the numeric part as the "Id" under Details. Ammended proposal to restrict to just the numeric part. Btcprox (talk) 13:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support Had never heard of that website, good addition! Jean-Fred (talk) 14:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Comment It’s a bit unclear to me whether their data model is at the work-level or the platform-realization level. There are some examples with more than one system indicated (example) ; and conversely I have not found examples of two entries for a single Q7889 item (there’s plenty of same-name entries like “Batman Returns” but arguably they are different games. If that’s the case then qualifying with P400 is probably not necessary, and we can have a single-value constraint. Jean-Fred (talk) 14:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Jean-Frédéric: I think they are more at the work-level? I just added examples 5 to 8 where as far as I can tell, Alien 3 (Q2836804) isn't separated into distinct Wikidata items per platform, but TASVideos has multiple distinct entries for 4 different platforms, since they are not identical ports. Ideally that single Wikidata item should instead be split into multiple items to represent the different games, but in the meantime I think the platform qualifiers are still helpful for this. Btcprox (talk) 15:56, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes, I agree with that, and I like that with this new identifier we have one more tell-tale sign of items that should likely be split (speedrun.com being one already): it makes sense after all, speedrunning is a use-case where there’s a clear need to distinguish between different (albeit similar) games. Jean-Fred (talk) 11:35, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

•  Comment (How about another property for Game Groups? Jean-Fred (talk) 14:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]

  @Jean-Frédéric: seems reasonable as another property to complement this one. Anyone feel free to draft that proposal too. Btcprox (talk) 15:56, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support with note to Jean-Fred’s point. —Tomodachi94 (talk) 00:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support Nicereddy (talk) 14:43, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• @Btcprox, Matthias M., Dexxor, OmegaFallon, Jean-Frédéric, Tomodachi94 and @Nicereddy.  Done: TASVideos game ID (P11701). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 14:45, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]