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• Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending – properties which have been approved but which are on hold waiting for the appropriate datatype to be made available
• Wikidata:Properties for deletion – proposals for the deletion of properties
• Wikidata:External identifiers – statements to add when creating properties for external IDs
• Wikidata:Lexicographical data – information and discussion about lexicographic data on Wikidata

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Before proposing a property

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2. Search if the property has already been proposed.
3. Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
4. Select the right datatype for the property.
5. Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
6. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.

Creating the property

1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
2. Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
3. See property creation policy.

On this page, old discussions are archived. An overview of all archives can be found at this page's archive index. The current archive is located at 2024/07.

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control highly authoritative source for the coverage of Colombian authors. --Epìdosis 18:05, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support --Kolja21 (talk) 19:09, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support - PKM (talk) 19:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support -- Bargioni 🗣 20:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support --Uomovariabile (talk) 09:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support -- Jason.nlw (talk) 12:47, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support -- Silva Selva (talk) 23:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support Atakhanli (talk) 20:47, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I thank you @Kolja21, PKM, Uomovariabile, Jason.nlw, Silva Selva:. In these days, while revising the Mix'n'match catalog with @Bargioni:, we unfortunately discovered that this website seems to be somehow outdated: a new one exists and it has 253765 entries (more than double of the 124857 entries in this one), but unfortunately this new authority file doesn't offer good URIs for the authority records. The fact that is website is older is a just deduction, because we didn't find any explicit statement of its obsolescence; ideally, if someone is able to contact the National Library, having their confirmation about the relationship between these two websites would be the best way to have a clear picture of the situation. As of now, I put the property "on hold". --Epìdosis 07:28, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I contacted the library. They will improve their authority records. So let's wait.  Bargioni 🗣 15:50, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support --Mohammed Qays (talk) 12:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in the Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English (Q126938206) (URL: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191739545.001.0001/acref-9780191739545). --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Comment: This is a complementary property to the reverse property proposal (Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID) for the French-English bilingual pocket dictionary, and I think this pair of reverse dictionaries would be useful in Wikidata. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Neutral {{Weak support}} the examples are strangely oriented, maybe more representative ones would be better. Also, it's sad that this dictionary is not fully freely accessible. Still this is an extensive and useful dictionary. Edit: I'm changing my vote to neutral for now, see Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data for more explanation. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 13:25, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @VIGNERON: Thank you very much for your interest in this proposal. I have added more varied examples to orient the context towards feelings and humanism, and I think they are now more representative. I also thank you for your remark which showed that this is a complete and useful dictionary. Cheers, Soufiyouns (talk) 18:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in the Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German (Q126871196) (URL: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191735103.001.0001/acref-9780191735103). --Soufiyouns (talk) 12:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• That's enough with the English dictionaries, don't you think? (I'm pretty sure we also have enough German dictionary properties.) Mahir256 (talk) 16:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Comment: @Mahir256: This is a complementary property to the reverse property proposal (Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID) for the German-English bilingual pocket dictionary, and I think this pair of reverse dictionaries would be useful in Wikidata. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Mahir256:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above statement is my opinion; I don't think a property for this is necessary at all, but if other people think it is then I will not stop them from using it (assuming, of course, that they do use it, rather than leaving the property dormant). Mahir256 (talk) 16:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in the Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English (Q126938078) (URL: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191739521.001.0001/acref-9780191739521). --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Comment: This is a complementary property to the reverse property proposal (Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID) for the German-English bilingual pocket dictionary, and I think this pair of reverse dictionaries would be useful in Wikidata. Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:05, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I screwed this up (I am quite new here). Helveticat is the categorization system for the Swiss National Library (Q201787), which is useful for publications, including books and newspapers, related to Switzerland. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support seems fine to me. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the most comprehensive list of Indian hamlets available, it will be very helpful in tracking all the rural habitations which are not full blown revenue/census villages. It also has a mapping to LGD local body code (P6425) making the whole Indian hamlet mapping tractable. RamSeraph (talk) 19:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Oppose This is the same as MDWS place ID (P6335), as all three example values for that property are (up to the presence of leading zeros) also values for this one. Mahir256 (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Mahir256 Can you give the source where these can be looked up.. I do suspect the JJM id is a successor to the MDWS place ID (P6335). I will retract this if this is actually the same RamSeraph (talk) 01:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @RamSeraph: The third "source website for the property" link on P6335 (incidentally with the domain ejalshakti.gov.in) still resolves, if you want to browse that. Mahir256 (talk) 01:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mahir256 I did see the same domain, and that is the reason I added MDWS place ID (P6335) in the related property list and also the reason I think it is a successor id. The other clue was that the reports with MDWS place ID (P6335) stop at 2018 and the JJM ones start at 2019. 3 out of 1.6 million matching is not a confirmation that they are the same, but let's put this is on hold till we can actually confirm fully. One other reason I want to add JJM id is because they are mapped to LGD here - https://ejalshakti.gov.in/JJM/JJMReports/lgd_mapping/rpt_LGDMappedStatus.aspx RamSeraph (talk) 03:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    One other thing.. can you confirm that the id in brackets next to the habitation name is the id to consider? RamSeraph (talk) 03:55, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Also, JJM data has been pulled and is available here(documentation) RamSeraph (talk) 04:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mahir256 The linked page for MDWS place ID (P6335) is broken for a lot of blocks, There are no ids even next to the habitation names for some states. I couldn't locate Cherukupalli (Q97489248) in the drop downs.. it would be helpful if you can show the source for the claim that the ids are the same. RamSeraph (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @RamSeraph: I'm not sure which bracketed numbers you are referring to, but the "S.No." that appears in the P6335 link is not the value of P6335; if you examine the HTML source for the drop-down boxes in that link (the <table class="SelectData"> element), each <option> element has a value attribute, which has been treated as the value for P6335 and which for Nangdala Tea Garden (Q60794317) and Uthukuli block (Q25553040)—to add two other random places to the three P6335 examples—match the values for this proposed property.

    Have you tried looking for some of the existing P6335 values in the link that you provided? There do seem to be issues now browsing the P6335 link (for whatever reason the list of administrative divisions in the drop-downs for the 2018 data doesn't actually correspond to what existed in that year)—in the case of Andhra Pradesh likely due to some reorganization of administrative divisions in the last six years—but while it may be disappointing that no P6335 values for within Andhra Pradesh was added to Wikidata, with respect to information from other states I also haven't seen yet any values where the value for P6335 is different from the value for this proposed property. Mahir256 (talk) 13:16, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I wasn't looking at the "S.No.", some of the habitations had a number in brackets - An example would be Appapuram village's listing of habitations. Can be reached via the following dropdown - "State: Andhra Pradesh -> District: Guntur -> Block: Kakumanu -> Panchayat: Appapuram -> Village: Appapuram". You will see two habitations listed there with names Appapuram(0709747009011500) and Chinakakumanu(0709747009021500). These are the numbers I was looking at. I highly suspect they were not the MDWS place ID (P6335)s of the habitations. I did look at the HTML source.. the ids in the <select> field don't extend till habitations, they stop at villages. So the MDWS place ID (P6335)s for habitations are no longer accesible.

    That brings us to what seems to be a major misunderstanding here, the current proposal is only for Habitation ids, not for census villages or any other administrative entities above them. In fact habitations are not administrative entities, they are just human settlements. The lowest administrative hierarchy is a Revenue village( which the British decided to use as census entities as well, you know, priorities :) ) or sometimes a Gram Panchayat( yes, a revenue village can have multiple gram panchayats ).

    Some of these habitation names are what people recognise as their village names. The 3 examples I gave are these kind of habitations, These couldn't be tracked down to revenue villages or gram panchayats. In the link added as source in this proposal going to the "B1: Basic Habitation Information" section you can locate these 3 entries by following the dropdowns as listed below.

    Cherukupalli (Q97489248) State: Andhra Pradesh, District: Bapatla, Block: Cherukupalli, Panchayat: ARUMBAKA, Village: ARUMBAKA

    Panatoor (Q19672794) State: Andhra Pradesh, District: Chittoor, Block: Gudipala, Panchayat: Gollamadugu Village:Bomma Samudram

    Kothaganesunipadu (Q6433970) State: Andhra Pradesh, District: Palnadu, Block: Machavaram, Panchayat: NAGESWARAPURAM THANDA, Village: Pillutla

    Now, coming to fact that the existing MDWS place ID (P6335)s are very similar to the newer JJM ids, these is more inline with what I was saying that the various JJM ids( for state, district, block, panchayat, village, habitations ) are successors of the original MDWS place ID (P6335).

    Are you suggesting that I add JJM habitation ids and call them MDWS place ID (P6335)? This is something I am ok with, We can add JJM id as an alternate name, but this might lose some of the subtlety that the id spaces have been separated in the newer identifiers and the source now calls them JJM ids, it might even lead to confusion, somebody needs to people to add additional zeros to avoid clashes across various entity types.

    Note: Looks like I got the id for Panatoor (Q19672794) wrong, I am going to correct the proposal, it is 31095 not 11912 RamSeraph (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mahir256 Forgot to ping. Also, adding one more thing. The newer JJM ids will definitely have ids which weren't in the original MDWS place ID (P6335). Digging these up would be easy. Look for any district formed after 2018. RamSeraph (talk) 15:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mahir256 What is the prescription here? Given that the MDWS place ID (P6335) values for habitations are no longer accesible at the source and the current proposal is only for habitations, I don't see how any of the arguments put forth in opposition still hold. Is this still an "oppose"? RamSeraph (talk) 19:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mahir256:, would you like to give your final opinion based on the discussion above. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mahir256, would you like to give your final opinion based on the discussion above, and clarify the comments above by @RamSeraph:. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 03:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support, Considering that MDWS place ID (P6335) was also from the same department, JJM habitaion id is a successor. --Arjunaraoc (talk) 05:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiley Online Library (Q70631906) is an online repository for articles and books published by Wiley (Q1479654), which are identified by their DOI. Journals have instead a custom identifier on this website. --Horcrux (talk) 08:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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•  Support ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 12:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support This is a stable, popular, identifier well aligned with WikiCite. We already have items where most of these identifiers apply. Bluerasberry (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support It seems to be derived from the ISSN, but since it's not actually the ISSN itself, nor is it issued by the same people, it should have its own property. The Anome (talk) 15:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Support useful journal ID Pru.mitchell (talk) 07:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Neutral I know the barrier for inclusion on Wikidata is very low, but this is a proprietary identifier, and even though we have information that it has been stable previously - there is no reason to believe it will be persistant over time. It risks being a time sink for editors while providing minimal, if any, benefit - that or it risks being only scarcely populated with data and therefore not useful. My only rationale to not actively oppose is the low hurdle to inclusion on WD. CFCF (talk) 13:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Cet identifiant existe déjà pour les humains : FEI athlete ID (P3111), mais pas encore pour les chevaux. --Tsaag Valren (talk) 17:32, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Claims to be the biggest Arabic Database for profiles of people. It has 200K entries. I've personally run into this database a lot when researching famous arabic people. Quick-ease2020 (talk) 19:04, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assigning these ids will allow to jump from a person to his works in a single click. Source provides birth/death dates for every person, making it possible to assign thousands of ids straight away.

Hermitage Museum (Q132783) provides remote access to the richest collection of the museum.

Note: The Hermitage Collections (Q110589495) and Hermitage Museum work ID (P10270) exist, but looks like they are for different website. Maybe another item should be created for "applicable stated in value".

Hermitage is using the same content management system as Pushkin Museum: Pushkin Museum artist ID (P12715).

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•  Comment The website times out for me and is down according to https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/collections.hermitage.ru?proto=https. So as long as it is not available it is hard to comment on this proposal. --Marsupium (talk) 17:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Oh no. Indeed it is not available in many places. But at least it doesn't look like geographical restrictions - some Moscow locations can't reach it as well. Podbrushkin (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

•  Support --MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @MasterRus21thCentury, is this website working for you? The website times out also for me! Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 03:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The New Mithraeum Database is centered around ancient artefacts and temples (mithraeum) around Mithras. It is still a growing project as there is each year new discoveries about Mithras' cult. This new property would be a great addition to Wikidata as Mithras is one of the most studied god in Antiquity.

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