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Chicago and North Western 7009

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Redirect I had set up was reverted. Subject lacks independent notability from the EMD SD50 and should be redirect to that topic. No prejudice to a merge. TarnishedPath^talk 09:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Iglesia Apostólica Filadelfia

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of notability under SNG or GNG. Small church built in 2015. Not only no GNG references, there are zero references on it. Reference is about the religion, not the church. And so is the article other than the 1 "it exists" statement. North8000 (talk) 20:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No independent sources to establish notability. --Un assiolo (talk) 22:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This is a bad nomination, emphasizing the current state of the article rather than the notability of the subject. However, the sorry state of the article accurately reflects the non-notable nature of the subject. A quick BEFORE indicates that the church is an independent congregation in the Pentecostal Apostolic tradition with no claim to fame, even locally. Possibility of Spanish-language sources escaping my search seems unlikely. No relevant merge or redirect target exists, so ATD isn't in play. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that the state of the article is not the issue. The description given was indicative of wp:notability, the comments on the content of the article and sources were merely indicative of that. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 23:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helmut Michel

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Doesn't seem to have received significant coverage. All I could find on this player was a 1961 Chicago Tribune newspaper article that he was playing in goal for an amateur team participating in the National Amateur Cup, which is barely a passing mention. Another site suggests a date of birth for this player, but that's all I could find, other than a Czech namesake who ran for political office in 1989. C 679 13:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players as possible search term. Giant Snowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as above. I didn't find any secondary RS. Tau Corvi (talk) 19:41, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players: Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. Redirect as a WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 22:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John J. Fisher Jr.

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Nominated (diff) by 173.175.200.238 for the following reason: Although I see that state legislators are "presumed" to have notability, my understanding is that under WP:GNG that is not guaranteed. In this specific case, the person in question was only in office for less than a day, appointed to fill in for someone who resigned. I have no opinion of my own at this time. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: If he doesn't surpass WP:NOPAGE, then an WP:ATD is a redirect to 100th Illinois General Assembly. Ultra-short term politicians certainly have the capacity to be notable (see List of members of the United States Congress by brevity of service, for instance), so that argument alone isn't enough. Curbon7 (talk) 08:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given the topic and the available recent citations, I'm not even sure that that would be the best target. Following the nominator's argument that the political stint isn't notable, the best target would therefore be List of Jeopardy! contestants. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 12:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, speedy close. With respect to WP:NPOL the fact that he did serve is backed up by reliable (yet primary) sources in the article. With respect to the other reason the subject is known, I'll give the best^[a] WP:THREE so far:
1. Cuevas, Jailene (July 16, 2024). "Jeopardy! host Ken Jennings takes 'cheap shot directed' at Illinois contestant and former senator". The Mirror US. Daily Mirror.
2. Lusk, Darian (18 July 2024). "Jeopardy! champ Jay Fisher nabs 3rd win despite 'unfairly difficult' last rounds". The U.S. Sun. The Sun.
3. Holmes, Martin (18 July 2024). "'Jeopardy!' Champ Jay Fisher Reveals Shocking Connection to Elvis Presley". TV Insider.

Given the above and the fact that the subject did hold office (albeit extremely briefly), I would also look to the guidance on WP:NOPAGE and think there's an argument that, even if all the sourcing stopped today,^[b] there is still justification for a standalone permanent stub. I think we can take the weight of presumably from WP:NPOL and the argument from the basic criteria that says "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability;" such that, combined, there is reason to believe the subject notable here.

Further, I do believe there is precedent for NPOL, especially at the state level, requiring less SIGCOV than the GNG would otherwise require. This, I believe, is the main justification of the IP's argument for deletion, and the weight given to presumed. This argument is made with respect to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but that the fact that the many politician state level stub categories exist and that the articles in those categories are presumed notable with minimal sourcing should demonstrate the implicit consensus about the required threshold for notability of senators at the state level. microbiologyMarcus ^{[petri dish·growths]} 14:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep meets WP:NPOL. The brevity of the term seems to me to make him more notable, not less (it's unusually short). TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 21:47, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NPOL. The coverage of him as a Jeopardy champ is just the cherry on top. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ I say best knowing the tabloid nature of the present list at the time of writing, giving it truly in the spirit of WP:THREE, "Be honest with yourself about how good they are."
^ While there is no crystal ball, as the current champion, it is likely there will be further coverage, adding to the breadth of trivial coverage. I don't make a WP:TOOSOON argument here, as it would cut both ways: the subject loses soon, it's not likely to get more coverage; the subject continues to win, coverage would be expected to continue.

Keep per MicrobiologyMarcus. Subject passes WP:NPOL, and arguably WP:GNG as well. Sal2100 (talk) 15:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Technology Connections

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I follow this channel and had the redlink watchlisted, so I was cautiously optimistic to see it turn blue. But unfortunately I don't think it's reached notability yet. The existing sources are all primary links to the channel itself, and a BEFORE search for others turned up only interviews on other YouTube channels I wouldn't consider sufficiently reliable (e.g. [1][2], a one-paragraph entry at [3] that's borderline for SIGCOV, and short summaries of videos like [4][5] that either aren't SIGCOV or aren't RS or both. Sdkb ^talk 00:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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weak keep: I'm a fan of his youtube channel, but it's hard to find things about it. This seems like a RS [6], a few hits in The Verge which is a RS [7], [8] and this which I think is also a RS [9]. We probably have at least enough for a basic article about this person, or the youtube channel he hosts. Oaktree b (talk) 00:47, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am also a fan of his YouTube channel but the sources provided thus far are not sufficient to meet WP:GNG. ElKevbo (talk) 00:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Unfortunately weak delete. The DigitalCameraWorld source above is the only one that qualifies for a full unit of SIGCOV, while the rest don't quite meet the mark, even when combined. Aaron Liu (talk) 21:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Midwest Rugby League

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Article has minimal sources and said sources only talk about exhibition games ahead of planed launches of the competition. Google search only bring up the Wikipedia page, Facebook page, and USARL Page which has nothing on it. Fails WP:GNG. Mn1548 (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Greg Koukl

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No evidence of notability, warning has been in place for over 7 years. I cannot find sources to indicate notability has been attained since the last nomination in 2011, which was closed as no consensus. glman (talk) 18:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete: Rather prolific author and is talked about a ton in the religious media, but a distinct lack of book reviews in "mainstream" media (for lack of a better word). This [10] review in religious media is typical... Some scattered mentions here [11] or [12]. We'd need more of these last two types of sources for this to have a chance to be notable here. Was hoping this would pass AUTHOR. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I have added another reference which squeezes him over the line on WP:GNG. But the Google scholar citations are actually pretty good, including 98 for Tactics. St Anselm (talk) 23:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as has good cites for two of his books as per Google Scholar here and coverage in reliable sources such as The Christian Post, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 18:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep:He's made STR. He's notable. Quote Veteran (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Keep: Per above. ADifferentMan (talk) 07:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prashanth Venkataramanujam

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Non-notable BLP. Sources relate either to Patriot Act or Hasan Minhaj. – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 21:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj, you mean? And he might mean WP:CREATIVE as creator/writer of this series... -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not eligible for Soft Deletion.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Redirect to Patriot_Act_with_Hasan_Minhaj#Production: which seems to be what he is notable for so far. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the redirect proposed above. Drmies (talk) 22:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Andruzzi

Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

[1] I say best knowing the tabloid nature of the present list at the time of writing, giving it truly in the spirit of WP:THREE, "Be honest with yourself about how good they are."

[2] While there is no crystal ball, as the current champion, it is likely there will be further coverage, adding to the breadth of trivial coverage. I don't make a WP:TOOSOON argument here, as it would cut both ways: the subject loses soon, it's not likely to get more coverage; the subject continues to win, coverage would be expected to continue.

[a]