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edit- Matir Asurim (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not appear to pass WP:NORG or WP:GNG.
There's two sources currently, one of which is the organization's own website, and the other is actually a decent source in Jewish Currents [1]. Unfortunately, the Jewish Currents source is the only source I've been able to find discussing this organization in any detail.
Before was a bit complicated, given that the organization shares its name with a more well-known phrase. Looking at the organization's social media accounts and linktree[2], however, and the Jewish Currents piece is the only piece of coverage (independent or otherwise) they feature. (Smaller organizations tend to list any mention of their group in mainstream/local press, so the fact they've only listed one piece is a sign that there is likely no further coverage.) I did do my own web search, however, limiting results to those published in 2021 or later. Doing that revealed one mention in an author bio on Google Books (obviously can't work), one passing mention in the Jerusalem Post [3], and one passing mention in a law student's paper [4] on Google Scholar. While this organization could potentially become notable in the future, it isn't now. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 01:13, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Concur that the only significant non-passing coverage I can find is the Jewish Currents article. Only one good source doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 04:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Baloch yakjehti committee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Questionable notability per WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Note that this appears to be a rewrite of a declined draft about the same organization by the same author: Draft:Baloch Yakjehti Committee (BYC). The same issues regarding formal tone appropriate for an encyclopedia noted as problematic in the declined draft seem to afflict this version. Geoff | Who, me? 22:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: per NORG, though the article should be rewritten. Significant coverage in this Asian News International article, this Dawn article, this Times of India article, this The Wire article, etc. C F A 💬 23:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Funny how they left "Sure, here’s how you can add a zone category list to your infobox:" in while copying from ChatGPT. C F A 💬 23:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- New South Wales Operating Theatre Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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non-notable article mostly written as an advert LR.127 (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Venezuela men's junior national softball team (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:NTEAM. The only sources are mere listings/summaries of game results and standings, while a WP:BEFORE didn't reveal anything better. Let'srun (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Agree with nominator. No available sources to prove WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG or WP:NTEAM. Prof.PMarini (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- International Franchise Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article was previously deleted in 2013 after an AfD. Recreated in 2020. I don't see any reason to dispute the result of that AfD; there is still little in-depth coverage cited on this page. Outside of the Supreme Court case (which appears to have been sparsely covered), the only coverage is a few mentions from minor trade publications. I tried looking for more on Google, but all I could find were press releases. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:13, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: In-depth coverage from independent and reliable sources is needed to meet WP:GNG. Its small role in a Supreme Court case does not make it notable.--AstridMitch (talk) 04:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- 1M1B (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears like one of the many organizations recognized by UN. However I find the article to be having notability issues. Inviting your comments. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Progressive Democrats of America (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most articles cited on this page are either pages from PDA's own website or articles about its founder. I can't find anything much better on Google; most coverage of PDA is passing mentions of it, usually when PDA teams up with a bunch of other progressive groups to release a "__ progressive groups call for __"-type press release. Previously nominated for deletion 18 years ago; I think it's time to reassess. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 17:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Ghana National Film Authority (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficient references. At least three references about the main subject must all meet WP:SIRS. I don't see any that do. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, added sources; has a before been performed? I deproDed the page, same nominator who also happened to have re-drafted the page although it had been accepted thorugh Afc.....-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep since the addition of more sources. Ternera (talk) 19:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as sourcing now demonstrates notability. Mccapra (talk) 21:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alameda Council (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NORG and WP:ORGIND fail. If a suitable target can be found, it could be re-directed as suggested for WP:BRANCH, although this article certainly does not merit standalone Graywalls (talk) 05:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - Agree with OP.
- Axad12 (talk) 16:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Newport Healthcare (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:ADMASQ WP:NCORP. Created by a single purpose account whose career on Wikipedia so far is making a series of edits over 13 minutes. While a few non-related changes were made, the primary purpose is evident. Lots of PR Newswire results, some non WP:SIGCOV level of magazine coverage. I conducted some, but not exhaustive WP:BEFORE search and NCORP appears to fail. It appears to be a non-notable likely promo article. Graywalls (talk) 21:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Abdali Hospital (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Still not notable. The last AfD (when the article was named Abdali Medical Center) was 5 years ago and the decision was to keep the article although it is notable that there was a number of editors saying it met GNG but didn't/wouldn't consider whether the sourcing met NCORP criteria. Nothing has changed in the meantime for me. This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. None of the references have content that meets these criteria. HighKing++ 17:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Horizon Services (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Ordinary, run of the mill rehab for the local community that has no place on a global scale encyclopedia. Fails WP:NCORP. Graywalls (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete as it clearly fails WP:NCORP. - Amigao (talk) 23:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Girl Geeks Scotland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG. 3 of the 4 sources are dead. The remaining source [5] is a small mention. LibStar (talk) 01:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: No independent sources available. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I found and added archived versions of the broken links. There are four good references, including two from mainstream newspapers. The article should be moved to Girl Geek Scotland, the organization's correct name.
- Keep — clearly, the article needs a rewrite and the inclusion of additional references. However, as per WP:CONTN and WP:NPOSSIBLE, the current state of the article has no bearing on its notability. Reliable and independent sources do exist: I am able to find a decent number of them. I see coverage in The Scotsman, Holyrood, BBC, City A.M., The Independent, and others. I think there is enough to establish notability. GhostOfNoMeme 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep found this on The Guardian[6], combined with the sources the wikipedians afore spoke about, should be enough to pass WP:SIGCOV and, subsequently, WP:ORGCRIT. However, when saying “I found an article on BBC”, please, add a link as well. That would help discussion to move quicker, as it would be easier to verify the arguments. Vorann Gencov (talk) 21:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the above Guardian RS article source stating this is a nonprofit organisation, then basic GNG applies per WP:NONPROFIT, and the subject very much appears to meet that notability level. ResonantDistortion 22:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Newark Renaissance House (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Run of the mill social services/rehab/treatment serving the local community that we can expect every medium to large cities to have. The NJ.com source is about a roundtable that was held at the organization but not really about the organization. An article like this has no place in a global scale encyclopedia. Graywalls (talk) 23:35, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Haqeeqi Azadi Movement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. There are no references much less GNG references on the subject of the article. The references are all on Pakistan politics in general, not on the subject of the article. North8000 (talk) 01:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with 2022 Azadi March II It seems WP:BEFORE wasn't followed as there is already coverage of it such as this and this. However, it seems unnecessary for this topic to have its own standalone article. Therefore, the recommendation would be to merge the content and redirect it. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and Merge as per Saqib.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 21:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- New England Immortals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of passing WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary, reliable sources. Sources in the article are primary and/or affiliated. Does not turn up any news media coverage in WP:BEFORE search. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to USA Rugby League#New England Immortals. Mn1548 (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would accept that merge as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect - it looks like this could perhaps have been WP:BLARed rather than being brought to AfD. signed, Rosguill talk 17:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosguill I thought it had been PROD'd but maybe I misread the history. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Gender Park (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG, lacks in-depth coverage (WP:CORPDEPTH) in reliable independent sources. References are routine news reports about individual initiates when it was inaugurated. The organization itself lacks sufficient coverage. Government organization has no inherent notability, WP:ORGSIG. Gan Favourite (talk) 15:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Kerala Institute of Local Administration (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG, lacks in-depth coverage (WP:CORPDEPTH) in reliable independent sources. WP:PRIMARY references are used for sourcing. The content is mostly copied from the official website. Govt organizations are not automatically notable (WP:ORGSIG). Gan Favourite (talk) 15:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Moppi Productions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources and what's linked in the article doesn't establish notability. There isn't significant coverage of the group in Freax: The Brief History of the Demoscene, Volume 1 (2005) by Tamás Polgár , only a single mention. One can find mentions elsewhere, like in this Tivi (magazine) article. According to a licentiate thesis, "Kurki (2002, p.57–62) used Moppi Productions as a case example when discussing developing visual styles", but I wasn't able to access the work. toweli (talk) 12:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment Kurki (2002) is available here (in Finnish). Adam Sampson (talk) 15:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Catholic Business Network (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP, nothing is reliable. First reference is also about us page of this company, which cannot be considered reliable in any way. Youknow? (talk) 07:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment This seems to be focusing on the Singapore organization only, when most of the Google News coverage I see is for the United States organization(s). Maybe it doesn't need to be deleted, but rearchitected to cover the PRIMARYTOPIC. Jclemens (talk) 21:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- del insufficient independent coverage. - Altenmann >talk 16:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Midwest Rugby League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has minimal sources and said sources only talk about exhibition games ahead of planed launches of the competition. Google search only bring up the Wikipedia page, Facebook page, and USARL Page which has nothing on it. Fails WP:GNG. Mn1548 (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (of AP Sunnis) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The previous history of the organization Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama, which was formed in 1926[7], was corrected on the page In 1989[8], a new organization was formed after resigning from this organization due to differences in ideas And the person who wrote the article made a full correction on the first page intentionally / for his own people (WP:CONFLICT),WP:PE and added the previous established year to the new page and wrote the new page in a promotional style. More content from the first page is also included in the new page ~ Spworld2 (talk) 16:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I could not see it there. If it necessary, feel free to add it there too. Neutralhappy (talk) 19:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Though Spworld2 says to have included this discussion in the deletion sorting lists for Kerala and India, I could not see it. Is its inclusion necessary there? If yes, you being successful in adding this in deletion sorting lists for organizations and Islam, fee free to add this discussion to the same of Kerala and India. Neutralhappy (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Do not delete page on Hitler, USA, Samastha of AP Sunnis and EK Sunnis just because there are people who have COI. Content is to determined using the reliable sources. I am neutral in this. That is why I say "(of AP Sunnis)" and "(EK Sunnis)". Both the AP and EK Sunnis claim their respective Samasthas is the real one. I can show that. So accepting one group's only claim could be CONFLICT OF INTEREST, especially in Wikipedia where Ahmadiyyas are categorised alongside Muslims. Reliable sources call Samastha of AP Sunnis "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama".I am sorry to say calling for its deletion must be nothing other than COI since reliable sources do not support that claim. Neutralhappy (talk) 11:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Very reliable The Hindu calls the Samastha of AP Sunnis "Samastha Kerala Jamiyyathul Ulama". There are numerous other sources that say the same. Neutralhappy (talk) 11:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Dool News calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha (AP Samastha).
- Mathrubhumi.com calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha (AP Samastha)
- Times of India also calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha. Moreover this terms the Samastha "Samastha Kerala Jem Iyyathul Ulama"
- Scroll.in says there are two different Samasthas
- OnManorama.com calls the Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha and mentions "Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama"
- News 18 says there are two Samasthas.
- Arab News calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a "Samastha"
- The New Indian Express calls Samastha of AP Sunnis "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama".
- Manoramanews.com says there are two Samasthas.
- Thejas News calls Kanthapuram's Samatha is Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama.
- Kerala Kaumudi calls AP Sunnis' Samastha "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama"
- Neutralhappy (talk) 13:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See also:
- Neutralhappy (talk) 02:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The organization has been featured on the websites of many reliable newspapers including The Hindu. Youknow? (talk) 07:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think, It's more than just a conflict of interest. According to government records, the name "Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama" is registered exclusively for the Samastha (EK Sunni's). Therefore, the claim made by the Ap Sunni's is not relevant. The government records tend to be more reliable than media sources Iyas Muhammed kc (talk) 14:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Policy :
- Naming is to be done as per the Wikipedia policy. It is not the government that decides in what name an organization should be known, but rather publicity, which in turn is used by reliable sources. So It do this as per naming policy of Wikipedia. See WP:NC. Hence "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama (of AP Sunnis)" is apparently the best choice because this contains both the term "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama" and the term "AP Sunnis". This is because the term "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama" is needed to identify the organization because that is how it is widely referred to and the term "AP Sunnis" is added after the name to avoid confusion". The part "(of AP Sunnis)" is used in the bracket to understand that it is not part of the name. The terms "AP Sunnis" and "EK Sunnis" are widely used. So I recommend the name of the article must have two things: one is the name which is widely used and the other one is another widely used term "AP Sunnis". Other possible names lack these advantages. Hence keep the article.
- Relevance :
- As for your (Iyas Muhammad kc) claim, here we can watch a Malayalam video in which Perod Abdurahman Saqafi, belonging to the AP Sunnis, made the same but opposite claim that as per the government's register office, Samastha of AP Sunnis exists there. But it is not relevant here. Neutralhappy (talk) 19:35, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- However, the discussion here is about deleting an article, not moving an article. Even if you have problem with the name, it can be solved by moving the article after a discussion. Deletion is not needed. Again there is no need of deleting the article. Neutralhappy (talk) 19:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- What does this mean? Neutralhappy (talk) 20:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete COI (fear of losing page or client demanding back deal so this page editor keeps writing many comments here without any other debate),.Split a samsatha and create a new one(this) , its information looks same here and edit some part for it. Ptmlp (talk) 19:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Society of Physicists of Macedonia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I found no notability per WP:ORG. SL93 (talk) 22:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep 75+ y.o. professional organizations. Sources are likely in Macedonian (using Cyrillic alphabet) and Greek (using Greek alphabet), so not surprising that they can't be found in a summary google search. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 07:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for same reason as above. Searching on the Cyrillic I find some pages, although I am relying on Chrome translate. It does seem to be an established organization that has been around for a significant time, no reason to delete. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree that there is automatically no reason to delete because sources might exist. On top of that, the year of establishment is currently unverified which is a core Wikipedia policy. SL93 (talk) 19:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- N.B., I did find sources, it was not "might". Ldm1954 (talk) 22:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Means the same thing to me as you haven't shared them. I see this being a keep so I guess it doesn't matter.. SL93 (talk) 22:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- N.B., I did find sources, it was not "might". Ldm1954 (talk) 22:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree that there is automatically no reason to delete because sources might exist. On top of that, the year of establishment is currently unverified which is a core Wikipedia policy. SL93 (talk) 19:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- International Anarchist Congresses (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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In a previous iteration of this article, it consisted of a list of various different congresses held by different organisations with little tying them together but the broad "anarchist" label. That list was recently dynamited by Czar, leaving nothing but a contextless list of congresses of the International Workingmen's Association, which I don't think have ever been described as "anarchist congresses" in any sources (the IWMA consisted of various different socialist tendencies, not just anarchists). As this article would, at best, be a random list of various, disconnected congresses for different disconnected organisations; and as it is utterly worthless in its current state, I'm recommending the article be deleted. Grnrchst (talk) 11:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- There might be a case for creating a list of anarchist congresses but we'd have to do some digging for sourcing. Or that might be a better job for a category. czar 13:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Since there's useful stuff in the page history and the topic is broadly notable we should be avoiding deletion if possible. A list is better than a category in this case, I think, since the entries will need more context to be useful (as noted by nom, the current state of the article isn't useful because it lacks that context). We also have a lot of incoming links here. Even in this extremely reduced state, it does at least have some "see also" that are relevant to the topic at hand. I agree with czar that it's not great to have unsourced sections hanging around forever, but I think deleting the whole thing is an unnecessary amount of TNT. -- asilvering (talk) 17:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking of incoming links, @czar, a bunch of the links aim at one of the sections you TNT'd. I think we might be able to source at least a skeleton of this to Skirda - but is there an easier way to search in the "what links here" results that I'm missing? I'd like to find the ones that redirect to a particular section without having to scroll through hundreds of results. -- asilvering (talk) 17:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Special:WhatLinksHere/International_Anarchist_Congresses showed the redirects and the sections they targeted. I cleaned up a bunch that should have been pointing to Anti-authoritarian International article sections. czar 18:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speaking of incoming links, @czar, a bunch of the links aim at one of the sections you TNT'd. I think we might be able to source at least a skeleton of this to Skirda - but is there an easier way to search in the "what links here" results that I'm missing? I'd like to find the ones that redirect to a particular section without having to scroll through hundreds of results. -- asilvering (talk) 17:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. Per above, I think we can re-scope this into a list with a table and sources. Agreed that the First International congresses should be described as precursors rather than anarchist congresses. If the list doesn't shape into anything coherent, I think we can revisit deletion. czar 02:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Co-Counselling International (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested blank-and-redirect to Co-counselling#Co-Counselling International. Insufficient secondary coverage of this organization, and article is promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Co-counselling#Co-Counselling International: though even that section needs a lot of work and potentially shouldn't exist at all. No WP:SIGCOV of the organization. No point in merging anything because the content missing from co-counselling is all promotional junk. The BLAR was contested by John Talbut, an employee of the organization — if you're going to continue editing these articles, please disclose your COI on the talk page of the article to avoid confusion. C F A 💬 20:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I've removed most of the blatant unsourced promo from the main article's section. C F A 💬 20:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- And I found and added a Guardian article that covers a lot about this organization's origins. Anyone should feel free to mine it for more. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- CCI is a peer network that I have been active in for many years. It does not have employees. People who teach co-counselling, of which I am one, may be paid, usually by participants or in some cases by outside organisations such as schools or colleges. John Talbut (talk) 08:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- You literally have "Formerly UK Contact Person for Co-Counselling International (CCI)" listed on your profile. Regardless, this is still a conflict of interest that has to be appropriately disclosed. C F A 💬 03:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- As the link shows, I am not anonymous and my biography is publicly available.John Talbut (talk) 11:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I've removed most of the blatant unsourced promo from the main article's section. C F A 💬 20:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I had to get to the categories before I found out this article is about counseling as in mental health and not counseling as in lawyers. EDIT: Fixed and sourced. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- The article is simply descriptive of Co-Counselling International as it is. There is plenty of secondary cover available, as can be seen here: https://www.co-counselling.info/en/biblio John Talbut (talk) 12:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I could not find a single paper on the website you linked that was secondary. They were all written by Co-counselling International. Some of them, in fact, were written by you. This is not secondary coverage at all. C F A 💬 03:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- What are you trying to do? Co-Counselling International is an active international network as is evident from following the web links referenced. You seem to be trying to delete most references to it. Do you have a COI? Co-Counselling International does not write anything, all contributions are made by and are the responsibility of individuals. Naturally a lot of the references are internal because they are about the network. If you think the article needs improvement please suggest how. John Talbut (talk) 11:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do not have a COI. I had never seen this article before it was listed at AfD. Being an "active international network" means nothing when it comes to notability. Please read the notability guidelines for organizations:
- A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is presumed notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject.
- There is not significant coverage of this organization in independent, reliable sources — which means it is not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. The references you listed above are all not independent of the subject and thus do not count towards notability. If you have any policy-based evidence that the organization is notable (WP:NORG), now would be a good time to share it. C F A 💬 16:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Objection to AfD secondary references independent of subject https://www.academia.edu/33733482/My_Early_Engagement_with_Humanistic_Psychology
- Also
- https://www.martinwilks.com/research/1.1Co-counselling.htm
- which is best accessed from http://www.martinwilks.com/my-research/ Pbgvbiker (talk) 21:19, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Source one is written by John Heron, the founder (?) of Co-Counselling International: the exact opposite of independent. Neither is the page you listed — the author is involved with the organization. Not sure about its reliability either way. On another note, it's interesting how this account has only ever made one edit: the reply above to this seemingly-random AfD. Looks like a duck to me. C F A 💬 21:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do not have a COI. I had never seen this article before it was listed at AfD. Being an "active international network" means nothing when it comes to notability. Please read the notability guidelines for organizations:
- What are you trying to do? Co-Counselling International is an active international network as is evident from following the web links referenced. You seem to be trying to delete most references to it. Do you have a COI? Co-Counselling International does not write anything, all contributions are made by and are the responsibility of individuals. Naturally a lot of the references are internal because they are about the network. If you think the article needs improvement please suggest how. John Talbut (talk) 11:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- I could not find a single paper on the website you linked that was secondary. They were all written by Co-counselling International. Some of them, in fact, were written by you. This is not secondary coverage at all. C F A 💬 03:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- QI News (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced since 2007. Literary found nothing that passes WP:GNG. Twinkle1990 (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I can't find a single source (let alone a reliable one) mentioning this subject, so it definitely fails WP:GNG. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Variety Magazine mentioned it being in development once, in-passing [9]; that isn't substantial coverage. I doubt there is substantial coverage. Unsure about a redirect to QI; ComedyBox is a redlink. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to QI#Other_media -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - this one is really strange. NO WP:THREE meeting WP:SIGCOV, still users are not interested. Twinkle1990 (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Searched for reliable sources with SIGCOV, but can’t find single. The subject fails WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 03:35, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Greater Ozarks Conference (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. The few sources which mention the subject do not constitute significant coverage of it. Gödel2200 (talk) 02:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Per WP:AVOIDCOI, making mention that I created the article. Additional information and sources added. Meets GNG's description of significant coverage, "... addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." Even when the article had one source, it sufficiently addressed the topic directly and in detail. Regardless, I have added more information to the article, as well as additional citations from additional secondary sources - all of which meet GNG's definition of significant coverage. I have also added an external link, on the article, to the press release report released by the founding schools when it was established - one of the cited sources also links to it. GuyBanks (talk) 03:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unless the decision is made to delete all the other articles on individual Missouri high school conferences:
- Big 8 Conference (Missouri)
- Big Springs Conference
- Carroll-Livingston Activities Association
- Central Missouri Activities Conference
- Eastern Missouri Conference
- Frisco League
- Gateway Athletic Conference
- Greater Kansas City Suburban Conference
- Kansas City Interscholastic Conference
- Metro Women's Athletics Association
- Ozark Conference
- Suburban Conference (St. Louis)
- Summit Conference (conference)
- Western Missouri Conference
- In addition to all the other states high school conferences: Category:United States high school athletic conference navigational boxes
- GuyBanks (talk) 04:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unless the decision is made to delete all the other articles on individual Missouri high school conferences:
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- Comment: Local coverage, such as what has been added here thus far, is usually not permitted for organizations per WP:AUD. Let'srun (talk) 18:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Live Art Development Agency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sources not passing WP:ORGIND and I believe it fails WP:NCORP Graywalls (talk) 07:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: As well the 2011 piece by Lyn Gardner of The Guardian which is referenced in the article, searches also find a 2019 piece by the same author. It is partly an interview with the co-founder of LADA, but starts with the writer's overview of the Live Art field and evaluation of LADA's role in it. AllyD (talk) 12:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- The following doesn't contribute to notability here, but I will also note that the present article doesn't mention organisational controversy during 2023 (news item discussing the closure threat and petition). AllyD (talk) 12:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Quick google scholar search https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22live+art+development+agency%22&btnG= indicates multiple quality sources referencing the organisation and its significance in global and UK live art, including books https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=wyJHEAAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA12&dq=%22live+art+development+agency%22&ots=M7sejwMOu5&sig=66lY7cxWvj0E_0jIdmuCmVU5DN8&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22live%20art%20development%20agency%22&f=false and peer review articles dating back to the early 2000s DrawingDays (talk) 09:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
I vote against deletion. While the article has issues, they aren't based on notability. It is clearly a well-cited and long running organisation that is important the UK cultural scene. The article could more clearly lay out the history and challenges of the org, as mentioned above, but this doesn't warrant deletion. genericxz (talk) 13:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The nominator has invoked WP:NCORP, however from this link [10] we see that the subject is a charity, therefore WP:NONPROFIT applies. It is not necessary for the subject to meet the more stringent guidelines put in place for corporate entities. On this basis - in particular including from the arguments above - there does appear sufficient coverage and citations of the activities of this charity to have a reasonable presumption of notability. ResonantDistortion 22:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. The vast majority of sources in the article are primary or affiliated, or they are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS that discuss LADA in passing. However, we have a bare minimum pass of WP:NORG with Chatzichristodoulou et al., Martin and Keidan. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- For the Freedom of Nations! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is little to indicate that this one-time 2024 event has notability. There is a lot of sourcing but little of it is reliable. Of the few RS that are cited, they make off-hand one-sentence mentions of this event or they explain the insignificance of the event. thena (talk) 21:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- A number of the cited sources may have a pro-Russia slant, but it also cites some directly critical sources under "criticism" and just looking it up on google I also found this bit of sigcov from a more generally anti-Western Turkish source; ONEEVENT is certainly a concern but it is also possible the sources required are simply spread out over many different languages that we only need more time and input to compile. Orchastrattor (talk) 22:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- The European Council on Foreign Relations citation seems perfectly admissible for GNG in particular. Orchastrattor (talk) 22:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as it fails WP:SUSTAINED. Plenty of one-time conferences have gained sustained notability (e.g., the Bandung Conference), but this article does not qualify. - Amigao (talk) 22:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the multiple sources available which indicates that it meets WP:GNG. The only issue with the article is WP:Toosoon but this will not affect the article because it is a multinational inter-party movement and it is not likely to die down soon, will rather gather more momentum. LocomotiveEngine (talk) 07:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Its sources almost entirely fail the crucial point of "Independent of the subject" per WP:GNG. See WP:TASS for example. - Amigao (talk) 21:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - I think this event is sufficiently notable. It may be a little early to judge ref WP:SUSTAINED but, @Amigao it’s import to pay due regard to WP:NTEMP. I agree with @Thena and @Orchastrattor that the references are poor and fall short of the standard described by WP:RELIABLESOURCES. I’ve done some cursory research and there are some western perspectives available that could compliment the pro-Russian sources currently in the article. (NB - Orchastrattor is being generous when they say. ‘May have’)
- TLDR/ Improve references. Too narrow. Adamfamousman (talk) 00:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- If it's too early to judge WP:SUSTAINED then it's WP:TOOSOON for this article to exist. - Amigao (talk) 12:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with Amigao. Also I can't help but be suspicious when a new user just creates an article as their first edit MaskedSinger (talk) 08:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Absolutely tendentious rationale, just about every worthwhile article I've ever seen on AFC has come from a brand-new account or an IP. Orchastrattor (talk) 18:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Move to draft pending development of sources demonstrating sustained notability. BD2412 T 01:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Foundation for the Education of Needy Children in Fiji (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No real evidence of notability. The sources found in the previous AfD are all either dead and not archived or do not discuss the company in sufficient depth to satisfy WP:CORPDEPTH, instead consisting of routine announcements of companies dontaing to them. While that's a noble goal it's not notability-establishing * Pppery * it has begun... 18:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: All coverage is WP:MILL. Not really anything about the company itself aside from funding announcements and press releases, which don't count towards notability per WP:ORGTRIV. The article is also in pretty rough shape and while I don't like deleting stuff for this reason, there simply isn't enough coverage out there to write a better article beyond a short stub. C F A 💬 00:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There is a lot of coverage out there, most of it appearing to be press-release-based churnalism. But I think enough of it goes beyond WP:ORGTRIV, for example, these piece in the Fiji Times that involve reporting ([11], [12]), and this piece in FBC News ([13]). There is also some mildly critical coverage that for sure wouldn't be from a press release, see Fiji Times ([14]) and FBC News ([15]) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dclemens1971 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- The first set of articles consists almost entirely of quotes from the organization hence fails WP:ORGIND. The second set does not discuss the organization in sufficient depth to satisfy WP:CORPDEPTH. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- I guess we disagree about what constitutes sufficient depth. I think several paragraphs constituting the whole of a news story on a single organization counts; I would describe the two more critical stories in particular as delivering "a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements" per WP:CORPDEPTH. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- The first set of articles consists almost entirely of quotes from the organization hence fails WP:ORGIND. The second set does not discuss the organization in sufficient depth to satisfy WP:CORPDEPTH. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:15, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I think the sources support the article well and particulary the sources that include some negative press. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockycape (talk • contribs) 05:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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